What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Joe Henderson » Thu, Jan 03 2008, 2:09PM

I am new to ecabs and just started tinkering with a library. We mainly do cabinet doors at our shop, we are working our way to cutting out cabinets for our cabinet makers, but it is a slow process. I have limited time with ecabs and only have a couple of pieces. I plan on sharing my designs in the future, I just want to be more proficient with ecabs first.

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby JohnLashuay » Mon, Mar 10 2008, 1:49PM

When I first started learning the program, I purchased a design library from Kerry and I found it very helpful in getting started. Creating a design library has been a point of interest to me, but as many have mentioned, TIME is a key factor as to why I haven't gone any further. The other, and maybe more important is all the details involved in the process. Kerry mentioned that "submitting a design or library is painless." and he went on to briefly describe the process.

I guess, what I am looking for is the criteria needed for each library? We don't use a cnc machine so I haven't looked into that part of the program. Having said that, will I still be able to share a cabinet library??

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Kerry Fullington » Thu, Mar 13 2008, 7:00AM

John,

That is the point of Design sharing. Your library using conventional machinery and construction techniques may be just what another member is looking for. Having a variety of libraries to pick from allows a new member to find joinery methods, etc. that are close to his own which cuts down how much work it takes to get a particular library working for them. There are no set parameters for a library.

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Francis Samson » Thu, Mar 13 2008, 8:14AM

So, if i understood the question correctly, i could just sit in front of machine and build all kinds of design for all kinds of tastes and not have to go to the shop anymore! :wink:
I will look at this closer since i think it could be a good source of creativity!
Question! Could this become a full job??? :?:
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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby JohnLashuay » Fri, Mar 14 2008, 4:49PM

Kerry,

I have wanted to look into this since you first told me about it back when I was looking for a 3D design program. This has become a great asset to our company, and now if I take the time and effort, this is a another direction that could also prove beneficial. Maybe many of us need reasurring and encouragement that design sharing is in our best interest to try to get involved in it, ...if it is at all possible (time-wise).

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Kerry Fullington » Wed, Mar 19 2008, 6:56AM

John,

I have to design cabinet libraries to use for myself and offering them in Design Sharing has paid me for the design time that it took to create a library.

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby JohnLashuay » Wed, Mar 19 2008, 8:17AM

Kerry,

Design sharing is making more and more sense. You make a very great point regarding the time it take to make the necessary libraries, and in turn sharing them should end up paying for your time.

I have created a pretty extensive library for different cabinets that we use so I will try to put something together and see how it work out.

Thanks Kerry for your encouragement and motivation!

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Al Navas » Thu, Mar 20 2008, 12:13PM

Kerry Fullington wrote:John,

That is the point of Design sharing. Your library using conventional machinery and construction techniques may be just what another member is looking for. Having a variety of libraries to pick from allows a new member to find joinery methods, etc. that are close to his own which cuts down how much work it takes to get a particular library working for them. There are no set parameters for a library.

Kerry


I hope I am reading this correctly, Kerry (and everyone else).

Would this also apply to construction using all solid hardwoods, too? In other words, everything?

The reason I ask: Two clients (attorneys - partners) asked me to design and build some office furniture for them, using all quarter-sawn white oak. I am getting close to finishing the design work. Would this also qualify for design sharing, using MY tools, in MY shop? Unisaw, large band saw, router table, 8-inch jointer, etc., etc.

I will build and finish everything in my shop (I hope...), if my back holds up while lifting/moving the assembled white oak furniture.

Thank you, Kerry, and everyone!

This is a tour of my shop, an early entry at my blog.


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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Jason Susnjara » Mon, Mar 24 2008, 9:12PM

Hi Al,

What you are trying to do would apply to design sharring as long as you build the product and specify how it was built and other specs required for someone to purchase and build your product.
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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Al Navas » Tue, Mar 25 2008, 7:39AM

Thanks, Jason. I now understand it much better!

I have designed all the office furniture using eCabinet Systems. As a result, the cut lists, etc., will be a part of this.


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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Joe Redburn » Mon, Jun 16 2008, 6:50PM

Kerry,
This thread is about a year old and I was wondering how the program has done since then.
It would be interesting to know how many members belong to the forum, how many have purchased a library, what is the best selling library, how many new libraries have been added ?
I don't know a whole lot about building custom high end cabinets as my business is commercial but I do know that if you want to sell something you have to market it. Build a better mousetrap and the world will ignore you unless you create a need for it.
You could help the cause if you posted the number of sales every month. If people see a market for a product they tend to jump on the bandwagon.
Try giving a Gold Star to the best design every now and then. Maybe buy a single item design from those posted and offer it free to the group.
Thats enough rambling for now.
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Joe

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Joe Harkin » Sun, Jul 13 2008, 7:21PM

OK, I'm a little confused.
Please someone explain tthe difference between "Design Sharing" and "Furniture Network" ?
Next question - If I were to take Kerry's hutch (Kerry - PLEASE upload it - I for one will buy it in a heartbeat to use as a seed!) and modify it into a different form or construction method, could I list it as a new/separate/different design ? Kerry gets paid for the original, and I (hopefully) get paid for the "evolution". ???
Kerry - I want that Hutch (did I say that already ?)

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Joe Harkin » Sun, Jul 13 2008, 7:37PM

Kerry- about the Hutch/China Cabinet ( sorry if it sounds like I'm beating this up, but it's such a nice seed.....)
You said this is a design you have used as a base for several customer designs. THAT is just what I see eCab designs as best
for; seed designs to be modified for each individual client's needs. If the parts are not all available thru Thremwood, so what ? If enough users are interested then those will be added to the network or Thermwood will provide a tool program for it and we can get it made by a Thermwood fabricator.
I am a solo remodeler/woodworker/wannabee and a CNC machine (or the place to put it) is still out of my league right now, but if I had a few contracts like that, I would certainly be thinking about finding a Thermwood-CNC fabricator or maybe even buying a router !
The more designs we all have comfortably in our "inventory" to show clients, the more business we will capture. And everybody profits.
EOR (END OF RANT)

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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Jason Susnjara » Mon, Jul 14 2008, 7:23AM

Joe Harkin wrote:OK, I'm a little confused.
Please someone explain tthe difference between "Design Sharing" and "Furniture Network" ?
Next question - If I were to take Kerry's hutch (Kerry - PLEASE upload it - I for one will buy it in a heartbeat to use as a seed!) and modify it into a different form or construction method, could I list it as a new/separate/different design ? Kerry gets paid for the original, and I (hopefully) get paid for the "evolution". ???
Kerry - I want that Hutch (did I say that already ?)



Hi Joe,

Design Sharing is eCabinet members adding a library or libraries of cabinets, closets, furniture, etc... that other members can purchase and download to use for their own purpose. We came up with this for the first time users. Knowing that other members are having a hard time learning the software, having the ability to purchase a library allready made should make desinging layouts easier. You can purchase Kerry's design and change the construction but this is to be used by you and not to sell again. This is becasue each library is tagged to the maker. The furniture network is really the same thing as design sharing except those furniture pieces were designed by professional furniture designers. We would then take their drawings and build them in eCabinets giving the members the ability to purchase the eCabinet files and also having the ability to rent carvings from those designs to incorporate into other areas like kitchen cabinets, ent centers, etc...
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Re: What Would You Like to See in Design Sharing?

Postby Joe Harkin » Mon, Jul 14 2008, 10:05AM

Thanks for the clarification, Jason. All clear now.


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