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In House Door panels

Postby Glenn Warner » Fri, Aug 20 2010, 10:10AM

Is there any way to make the door panels out of sheet stock, so they can be nested? Board stock is the only option I see. I'm using beaded mdf for flat panels.

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Nick M Singer » Fri, Aug 20 2010, 10:19AM

Yes you can but what kind of door are you talking about?

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Glenn Warner » Mon, Aug 23 2010, 12:16AM

A five piece door with 3/4" rails and stiles, and a 1/4" flat panel. I want to nest the 1/4" sheet material. The build in-house option doesn't appear to allow this.

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Nick M Singer » Mon, Aug 23 2010, 1:06AM

Glen are you making these doors on a Thermwood?

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Kerry Fullington » Mon, Aug 23 2010, 6:15AM

Glenn,

I don't know of any way to be able to nest the panels in eCabinets using the Door/Drawer front designer.

You can create a door using a face frame with negative insets to make your cope and stick cuts and then use insets for the back to get your 1/4" panel sizes. This will nest but you would have to batch the doors and change the size for each door.
I do this for end panels and island backs.

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Michael S Murray » Mon, Aug 23 2010, 8:26AM

Glen, if you have your panel sizes you can enter them right at the machine and nest them there, you could also do it in e-cabs as display panels and then send them to machine, or take the back out of a cabinet and save it, then resize for each panel you need......actually easier than display panel method as you have to creat those one at a time, and cant resize..
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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Nick M Singer » Tue, Aug 24 2010, 12:47AM

Ok it is clear you are using a Thermwood, why dont you just do these as MDF panels using the Profile Modeller?

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Glenn Warner » Wed, Aug 25 2010, 6:54AM

Using the build in house option, I can get all the right sizes for rails, stiles and panels in the cut list. Just can't get a nest diagram for the panels, since they can only be specified as board stock. I cut these on a slider, no CNC here.

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Nick M Singer » Wed, Aug 25 2010, 10:30AM

Ok if you dont need it for CNC production and just want a nesting diagram and are getting the panel sizes from the cut list just quickly create those panels as display panels in the required material and you will get the nest

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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Dennis Englert » Thu, Aug 26 2010, 9:34AM

Nick,

Nesting the panels of a raised panel door can be done and I think with minimal effort. Granted it's not a straight shot from eCabinets to a .twd file, but the data is there. When I say "Raised Panel" doors, in this case I realize that you don't want raised panels, but want 1/4" flat panels.

An Excel spreadsheet can be loaded into Control Nesting that would let you import panels. You can enter the panel sizes manually, but I think that would be time consuming and prone to errors.

To start, create the door as a Thermwood 5-piece door with the correct insets for your panel. It really doesn't matter that it is using board stock in the Door/Drawer Designer. We just need the size of the panel. From your job or cabinet, generate a Cut List report and Export the Cutlist to Excel.

You'll find a breakdown of the door parts in the FivePieceDoorBreakDown sheet. Then manually purge the component list to just Panels or manipulate it with Visual Basic.

In Control Nesting, an example of the spreadsheet format can be found on the dialog for loading a .twd or .dxf file. Next to Excel Files there is a question mark. Click on that. Delete and add any required columns per the example shown.

The required data is: Quantity, Panel Name, Panel Width, Panel Length, Material Name, Sheet Width, Sheet Length, Sheet Thickness, Has Grain. So this data as listed is entered in sequence to columns A through I. Column names don't appear to be required, so the data must be entered in the sequence I've listed above.

The cut list provides you only with part dimensions, so you would have to add the material information, i.e., material name, sheet width, length, thickness and Has Grain (Yes or No). Most of this information would be copy and paste.

Anyway, see if this make sense.


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Re: In House Door panels

Postby Nick M Singer » Fri, Aug 27 2010, 5:33AM

Hi Dennis thanks for participating but it is Glen with the problem and he does not have a CNC. He is only trying to get eCabs nesting diagrams for his panels that are made from a different material (MDF) to the frame.


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