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Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Fri, Oct 04 2013, 9:46AM

In what area of the software do I set up the drilling pattern for these? I read the help file, but wasn't sure where to actually start.

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Daniel Odom » Fri, Oct 04 2013, 10:43AM

Hardware hole editor, there's a tutorial in the help file. Basically you set up like a normal drawer slide only you can add holes to the back of the drawer front.

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Fri, Oct 04 2013, 10:53AM

I've been trying that and the holes aren't showing up on the back of the drawer front for some reason. From what I can tell. I'm doing everything as the tutorial is showing to do it, but still can't get the holes to show up...

FWIW, I'm using just drawer fronts (no drawer box) and trying to apply the slide to the drawer fronts in the door/drawer editor.
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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Daniel Odom » Fri, Oct 04 2013, 12:19PM

You can only do it from the door drawer editor I believe. You add a drawer and check that box that says "add drawer box" and set up the parameters there after selecting a default box and pattern. Not sure if it can be done without a box, never tried.

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Sat, Oct 05 2013, 12:53PM

I resorted to adding the holes in manually. It added the slide holes for the side members fine, but wouldn't add them in to the back of the drawer front, no matter what I did. I had to remove the front holes altogether from the slide pattern, as all though they weren't showing up, they were throwing off the location of the holes I'd created manually.
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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Kerry Fullington » Mon, Oct 07 2013, 7:15AM

Nat,

Your hole pattern for the front holes must be created left of the vertical axis line in the editor (holes created to the right of the vertical axis will create holes in your drawer box side) and it must have a negative depth great enough to penetrate your front. If you also give this pattern a positive depth it will create a hole through the drawer box.

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Mon, Oct 07 2013, 7:47AM

Thanks Kerry. I'll try the negative depth, it sounds like that may the problem. I was entering a positive depth (following the help file) with no luck.

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Dennis Englert » Mon, Oct 07 2013, 2:08PM

I'll try to rewrite that section to clear up the positive/negative depth confusion.

In general, the negative depth assignment drills a hole into the cabinet side or applied drawer front. The positive depth drills holes into the drawer components, i.e., the sides and drawer front.

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Mon, Oct 07 2013, 2:45PM

Thanks Dennis.
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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Mon, Oct 07 2013, 4:26PM

Working now with the negative depth.
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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby FredHirsch » Tue, Oct 08 2013, 11:25AM

Nat,
Here is what we use for the Zargen 6235 500mm. Hope this helps. When you add drawer to cabinet you have to constrain as follows:
LR Inset = .625
Bottom Inset = .25
Min Hght Inc. =5.75
Min Depth =19.9606
Slide Dist Bttm = 0

These have all the holes/cuts necessary. Guys on floor do a drawer in about 2 mins with press.


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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby Nat Wheatley » Tue, Oct 08 2013, 5:17PM

Thanks very much Fred. I've used piles of Zargen slides usual manual boring, but had forgotten all the settings. Slowly climbing back up their learning curve...

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Re: Metal Drawer Systems

Postby jason galbraith » Wed, Oct 09 2013, 3:05PM

To make things a little quicker, when you make a draw box that has metal sides like the grass ones, you can set the sides of the draw box in, for example the blum ones I use have to be set in 15.5 mm from each side of the opening. In the draw box construction settings, put this allowance in for the sides and the back. After doing this you don't have to put a left and right inset for the draw when you go to put them in just leave the amount at zero. Saves a little bit more time and can save some errors.
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