dadoing faceframes to case

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dadoing faceframes to case

Postby Don Nichelson » Thu, Jan 11 2007, 1:36PM

I cannot figure out how to set up dadoing my faceframes to cabinet. There doesn't seem to be an option for that. In the past I have just made sides, top and deck 1/4\" wider. Is there a way to set this up?

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Sorry

Postby Don Nichelson » Thu, Jan 11 2007, 1:39PM

I'm sorry I already posted this question. Is this function up and running yet?

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dado face frames

Postby Dave O Jeffries » Thu, Jan 11 2007, 1:55PM

DON just use a negative inset on the part [side top or deck]

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Postby Forrest Chapman » Thu, Jan 11 2007, 6:03PM

Don,

Hang in there. It won't be much longer.

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Postby Michael S Murray » Thu, Jan 11 2007, 8:56PM

Sounds like Forrest has some insider info. here!Come on Forrest share with us, we wont tell any one else!!!!!!!!
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Postby Forrest Chapman » Fri, Jan 12 2007, 8:00AM

Mike,

What I know is the Thermwood guys are working very hard to implement this feature. Beyond that I can't talk about it. Besides I'm not going to be the one to try and steal Ken's thunder. Just trying to give Don something to look forward to.


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Postby Michael Yeargain » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 8:22AM

Great response forrest :roll:
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Postby Michael S Murray » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 9:09AM

Forrest,
I was just joking, obviously. I appreciate all the hard work the guys at Thermwood are doing, I cant imagine the complexity of it all, I have my hands full just trying to keep my little business going. I can only imagine what this software will be in a couple more years.
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Mike
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But if you dont tell me I am going to go down to thermwood and go office to office until some one gives it up!! :lol:
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Postby Michael Yeargain » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 9:35AM

They might be open monday :lol:
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Postby Forrest Chapman » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 9:48AM

Mike and Mike,

I get it. :) But I've said enough. :wink: Now if you don't let this go I'm going to get in trouble guys. :joker:

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Postby Brian Shannon » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 11:35AM

I've never used this method to attach a faceframe. Do you guys run the dado on the Style all the way through. I use pocket holes and screws. How does the dado effect the area where there are screws from the rails?


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Postby Michael S Murray » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 11:58AM

Hey Brian,
I DONT do face frame, but when I do, or when I use to a lot, I had a pretty good system. To try to explain, I would cut all my face frame material to size, then I would cut a 1/4\" w.x 3/8\" d. dado in the back, 1/2\" in from edge, or really the thickness off my box material. We use 1/2\" plywood. Then you would cut a 1/4\" wide tongue on your box. This would be inserted in the groove of the face frame. depending on how you orientated the panel when you inserted it, you would end up with a 1/4\" scribe for cabinet to cabinet or if you rotated the panel 180 d. you had a flush panel for end of run. Same setup for both, you only had to watch the finish on the exposed end run cabinet. Same way for the deck, you could make it flush or 1/4 lip depending on how you inserted panel. To answer your ?, we did not use pocket holes and dado's in combination, we just glued the panel in dado and the either clamped for finish ends or angle nailed a few brads through the side panel into face frame for butt cabinets.
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Postby Brian Shannon » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 1:34PM

Thanks Mike,


I think I understand how you did it. Do you build your Faceframes with pocket holes and screws? I'm wondering about the faceframe screws going into the Style dado, before the frame even goes onto the box.


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Postby Michael S Murray » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 2:24PM

Yes we do pocket hole our faceframes. We use a 1-5/8 wide rail and style for the most part and even at that minimum width we dont have trouble with the pocket hole screw going through the dado. We only use one screw per joint as by the time you glue it and then dado and glue the box to the frame, it is a very strong joint. But, remember, you are talking to a guy who DOES not build face frame cabinets!!!
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Postby Brian Shannon » Sat, Jan 13 2007, 4:03PM

I use 1 1/4\" faceframe screws. I haven't checked but I guess with 1/2\" to bite into on the Style, the screw may be O.K.. Thanks for the help Mike.


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