Upper extended end issue

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Upper extended end issue

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This cabinet should have an extended end with a deck extending 1/2 past the right end, but leaves my deck on the cutlist 1/2 too long. I've lost patience as I have got the correct settings before but not this time

What am I doing wrong? Thx Jack
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Post by DanEpps »

Use a negative 1/2\" inset on the right side of the deck.
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Post by Jack Duren »

The cabinet is 52 1/2 long with 1/4 dado in the left finish end, plus a -11 1/4 inset from the right side of the frame. If I apply the -1/2 inset on the deck it makes the bottom shelf 52 1/2 long. Looks correct but cutlist is incorrect. Thx Jack
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Post the cabinet so I can see the settings.
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Post by Jack Duren »

Hope this is right?...Jack
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Post by Jack Duren »

Not sure I know how to attach the file. Correct me if this one is wrong.
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Post by Gene Kimmi »

Jack,

Not sure if this is the right way to do this, but try setting cabinet width to 52\", right scribe to -10 3/4\", then the right end of the deck to -1/2\" inset.
I think having the neg. inset on the right scribe is making it so you can't neg. inset the right end of the deck and get the right dimensions.
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Post by Gene Kimmi »

Here is the picture with the changes I suggested. Doing it this way, with the -1/2\" inset on the deck, makes the cabinet 52 1/2\" wide.
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Post by Jack Duren »

Gene thx. I've thought of this as well. Problem is remembering to make each upper extended end 1/2 smaller than needed makes me have to think :wink: .....Jack
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Post by Gene Kimmi »

Jack,
I think the problem is you're trying to do 2 things, -11 1/4\" inset right end and extend bottom 1/2\" past right end, when the program will only allow you to do 1 or the other.
When I design a cabinet like this, a blind corner upper, I put a face frame over the extended right end. This allows me to put a 1/2\" scribe on the right side and have the bottom extend past the right end 1/2\" and the cutlist comes out right.
I'm still learning this program, but I've found a few times that I just have to cheat the system, as in the above example, to get what I want. :lol:
Of course, the next post will be somebody with a simple fix to this.
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Post by Jack Duren »

Ok I'm back to solving this problem. Its a typical Kansas City construction technique.

So what do the senior members say? Can or cant?......Jack
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Post by Kerry Fullington »

Jack,
This should do what you want.
Change your right deck construction to Side Flush and put a negative 1 1/8\" inset for right deck and a 1 1/4 bottom inset for your right end.

Kerry
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Post by Jack Duren »

Kerry this still does'nt work. Only readjusting the face frame. The cabinet is 52 1/2 wide and still makes the deck 52.5.....Jack
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Post by Kerry Fullington »

Jack,
Did you download my cabinet to look at the settings. The deck is 52\" with the 1/2\" extension. This should work.
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Post by Jack Duren »

Kerry I've downloaded the cabinet but it wont open. I can see the file on the desk top but wont open...Jack
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