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Miter front to corner cabinet
I am trying to make an upper corner cabinet that has the face frame and sides mitered together using 22.5 deg cut on each. After much hair loss I figured a way to make it work by inseting the end panels by -0.3107 and inseting the face frames by -0.75. That makes the corners line up geometrically. My question is why it works on the left side and not the right side? The right stile goes crazy when I offset it. Can anyone help?
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Here is the cabinet if you need it. Basically you want to take a framless cabinet and measure across from point to point and then bring in another cabinet the same width and delete all the parts except the face frame and then align the new face frame to the framless cabinet and it will look correct.
In construction setting there is a tab to click for angled face frame with the miter your looking for but I have never gotten it to work on both sides. The right side always looks crazy. Do it this way and it will look correct.
In construction setting there is a tab to click for angled face frame with the miter your looking for but I have never gotten it to work on both sides. The right side always looks crazy. Do it this way and it will look correct.
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Doug,
The proper way to build this cabinet would be to take off all the insets on your left and right sides then add a 1.25\" bottom inset to the deck.
Remove the scribes to your face frame.
Go to corner settings and check the Left and right sides mitered box.
This causes eCabinets to add enough length to the pieces for you to cut your miters.
The miters will not show up graphically.
Kerry
The proper way to build this cabinet would be to take off all the insets on your left and right sides then add a 1.25\" bottom inset to the deck.
Remove the scribes to your face frame.
Go to corner settings and check the Left and right sides mitered box.
This causes eCabinets to add enough length to the pieces for you to cut your miters.
The miters will not show up graphically.
Kerry
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Kerry,Kerry Fullington wrote:Doug,
The proper way to build this cabinet would be to take off all the insets on your left and right sides then add a 1.25" bottom inset to the deck.
Remove the scribes to your face frame.
Go to corner settings and check the Left and right sides mitered box.
This causes eCabinets to add enough length to the pieces for you to cut your miters.
The miters will not show up graphically.
Kerry
Why is the 1.25" bottom inset necessary?
I have searched, and cannot find the answer to this. Is it necessary to make the whole thing work properly?
The reason I ask: I used a 0.25" inset for this cabinet, and now the side bottoms are flush with the bottom edge of the face frame. But, I have a feeling you were addressing something else...
Al
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Al,
This inset will change with your bottom rail and deck thickness measurements.
With a 2\" bottom Rail and a 3/4\" thick deck you must inset the deck 1 1/4\" to flush the deck with the top rail.
This is just easier than applying a negative inset to the ends and back as Doug was doing and accomplishes the same thing.
Kerry
This inset will change with your bottom rail and deck thickness measurements.
With a 2\" bottom Rail and a 3/4\" thick deck you must inset the deck 1 1/4\" to flush the deck with the top rail.
This is just easier than applying a negative inset to the ends and back as Doug was doing and accomplishes the same thing.
Kerry
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When you extrude any part of the cabinet beyond the cabinet dimensions, they become realy funky and don't want to act right. Kerry's inset is the best way for sure.
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In the attached image:
1. Should I offset the sides, or the top and deck?
2. What I need: I will be using knife hinges to install the doors; therefore, I need the top and deck to be offset like this.
3. When I profile any of the edges on the sides, and then follow this by making any changes to the offsets, I lose the profiles. Maybe this is what you mean by "funky"?
Al
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Just to follow through:Michael Yeargain wrote:When you extrude any part of the cabinet beyond the cabinet dimensions, they become really funky and don't want to act right. Kerry's inset is the best way for sure.
In the attached image:
1. Should I offset the sides, or the top and deck?
2. What I need: I will be using knife hinges to install the doors; therefore, I need the top and deck to be offset like this.
3. When I profile any of the edges on the sides, and then follow this by making any changes to the offsets, I lose the profiles. Maybe this is what you mean by "funky"?
Al
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Al,
You should be able to stretch or shrink any part of a cabinet without problems. I think that Doug's problem was a corner cabinet face frame scribe problem. (the eCab guys should probably look at this) I like to use as few adjustments as possible is why I choose to inset the deck instead of stretching the sides and back. If you have given insets to a part and start having problems that is always a good place to start looking for a cause.
Kerry
You should be able to stretch or shrink any part of a cabinet without problems. I think that Doug's problem was a corner cabinet face frame scribe problem. (the eCab guys should probably look at this) I like to use as few adjustments as possible is why I choose to inset the deck instead of stretching the sides and back. If you have given insets to a part and start having problems that is always a good place to start looking for a cause.
Kerry
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Thanks, Kerry. I must remember this when I see something strange going on.
Al
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Thanks, Kerry. I must remember this when I see something strange going on.
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I know I had some problems with the bottom insets, but I wanted to know about mitering the faceframe into the sides. I know that you can go to the corner cabinet option and check miter sides, but I thought there may be a way to manipulate the inset/scribe numbers to make it work without making an assembly. I want a 22.5 degree cut on the sides and face. I know it won't show up graphically. It works on the left side as shown.
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