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Postby Dan Craig » Sun, Oct 30 2005, 11:47AM

I'll second the recommendation of CPES (Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealer) for treating exterior wood. I've used it for years on exterior work and paint and other finishes adhere to it very well, and it adds a ton of stabilty to the wood.

Great, but not cheap, stuff!

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Postby Michael Kowalczyk » Mon, Oct 31 2005, 4:13PM

Hey Brian,
We have BobCad ver20.5 with Bobart X pro and do most of my 2D drawings in it. If you get it make sure you get the training libarary and SOD (support on Demand) to help refine the post for your CNC. and most important is to sharpen your negotiation skills. If you do not bargin with them you paid TOO MUCH. Great program for the money and even better when it's discounted.

We also use Enroute 3 Pro for our tool pathing and ordeer of operation strategies. Excellent toolpath options but it lacks in CAD drawing ease.

We also just picked up ArtCAM pro ver 8 for our 3D work. It does it all. Excellant program and forum. I t does 2D and 3D and more but it is about 7500.00 USD. Well worth it if you are doing 2D & 3D. All 3 of these programs are great assets to our business but who knows V5 of Ecabs make replace them all :D :D :D :D

Let me know if you need any help.
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Brian Shannon
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Postby Brian Shannon » Mon, Oct 31 2005, 4:50PM

Michael,

Thanks for the info.. I think if I can get 20.5 and Bobart pro X for $1500 or so, I'd be doing good. I just can't justify Mastercam or Artcam. I am a small shop but need some other cad/cam software to compliment eCabinets.


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Postby Jeff Norris » Mon, Oct 31 2005, 5:15PM

hey brian if i were in your shoes i would look at buying artcam insignia. you can purchase the entry version for somthing like 800-1500 and then you can always upgrade to the pro version, that way you wont be burdened with too many reatures that you wont be using at first. the only drawback to artcam is that it is not a good cad drawing program, i think artcam is a perfect compliment to ecabients, it will give you the ability to create parts that you cannot easily make in ecabients, if other people send you dwg files artcam will import them and maintain all the layers so you can still use geometry created by other people. if you really need a cad program turbocad cannot be beat and its really cheap, they also have a cam application that i dont really know much about but it is cheap. hope this helps

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Postby Michael Kowalczyk » Mon, Oct 31 2005, 5:16PM

Hey Brian,
I can save you enough money on BobCad to payfor your gas for the next 2 months+- but only if you can get back to me ASAP. I talked to my contact and got an excellant deal for you for Bobcad 20.5, BobArt ProX and the full training CD library. But you know how it goes they will honor this deal if you buy it buy 5PM EST Tuesday November 1, 2005. Send me your phone # and I will give you the details.

Let me know if you want it.
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Postby Jeff Norris » Mon, Oct 31 2005, 10:24PM

every software guy i have ever talked to has tried the end of the year deal on me or before the end of the month, they are like car sales men, any deal they offer you can be had again, dont make the mistake of giving the bobcad people your phone number or email address, i requested info on bocad three years ago and they still havent stopped sending me stuff.

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Postby Michael Kowalczyk » Tue, Nov 01 2005, 1:51PM

Jeff,
I do not work for BobCAD or get a commission from them. I like to negotiate and help other woodworkers. This is not an end of the year sale. I have put a few deals together and I guess because it is less work for them to sell the buyer the savings are passed on. I will lose no sleep over it if Brian or anyone else I talk to does not want the deal I helped negotiate. They may have a better deal for what they need.
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Postby Zach Froble » Tue, Nov 01 2005, 5:18PM

Brian,

I have been using bobcad/cam for over a year now linked to my thermwood and it works great. I have had customers send me autocad drawings and opened up in bobcad without problems wrote the code for my machine.

You can't beat the price.

I also have bobart but haven't got a chance to play around with it.

Zach

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Postby Brian Shannon » Fri, Nov 04 2005, 2:01PM

I must say Thank You to Michael. He did set me up with a VERY good deal on Bobcad and BobArt. He just gave me a number for his contact at Bobcad and I only paid half of what I expected! Thanks Micheal!

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Postby Dan Craig » Sat, Nov 05 2005, 1:40PM

cool...can't wait to see the finished product!

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Postby Michael Kowalczyk » Sun, Nov 06 2005, 3:52PM

Brian,
Your welcome !! Hope to see some of your work posted in the gallery soon. I'm sure that the training videos will be very helpful. Let me know how you are doing with it. Looking forward to see what you will do with it. :D

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Postby Brian Shannon » Thu, Nov 10 2005, 11:45PM

Jeff,

Have you had a chance to work on my sign yet? Just wondering. Also, if I use Extira, should I still seal it with a varnish? I did purchase BobCad but I'm sure it will be a while 'till I learn it. I think I will also check out Insignia that you suggested. Is that what you currently use? Thank you for your help Jeff!

Brian


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