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Designate tool by name

Post by Josh Rayburn »

I'd like to use this new feature. How does it work?
Can anyone give an example? There is no documentation in the interactive web CN manual.
Thanks,
jnr
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Re: Designate tool by name

Post by Larry Epplin »

Refer to the manual that came with the update. There is a description in the DXF section under Layer Names.
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Thanks Larry - I found it.
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Josh we have not updated yet but I was interested in this feature also and would like an example before we update. Could you post one by chance?
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Sure Scott, as soon as I try it out I'll post one. Should be soon.
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Please see attached export, dxf file, and resulting code.
Tool naming is broken unless I misunderstood the manual. In fact, T5 should not be called for the chain comp operation at all and it appears it is comping to the wrong side of the line anyway.
Please fix!
Thanks
jnr
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Hi Josh. have you had any feedback fom this issue?
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Nope not yet.
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Re: Designate tool by name

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I talked to Joe in programing about a carving issue we were having today and mentioned your thread maybe they will respond
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Thanks Scott, I hope it's fixed soon, we've been hoping for this feature for a very long time. Or maybe I just need to be schooled because I did something wrong, but either way I sure could use it to make some things easier.
Have you tried it and found the same result?
jnr
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Re: Designate tool by name

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Looks like the problem is due to it being a chain layer without a tool diameter specified. This makes Control Nesting select the outline tool. If you designate a tool diameter d#p# (it will not be obeyed due to a name being supplied) it will then jump to the operation tools section and find the tool. We will get this fixed in the next version.

We've also located a problem with pockets using this feature. This will be fixed in the next release as well.
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Thanks Larry!
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Re: Designate tool by name

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This feature appears to be working now, however this morning I encountered a tooling error.
I saved the .cst file with tool names for each tool that I use frequently.
I reloaded the .cst and nested a job - It appears that a tool with a name will not be called for a tenon / dado operation. Once I removed the name, the tool was called and .cnc file was created successfully.
Can anyone else verify this, and if so, is it a bug or is it designed to work this way?
Thanks,
jnr
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Re: Designate tool by name

Post by Larry Epplin »

This is by design. If a tool is given a Tool Name in the Control Nesting Tooling dialog, it will only be used for operations that have been designated with that tool name. As of now, there are only 2 means for this designation. They are through the Tool Name feature in DXF or the KCDw Job Level Interface technique.
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Re: Designate tool by name

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OK got it. Thanks Larry!
jnr
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