Cut-out instead of pocket

Discuss Thermwood 3-axis Machinery, Controller, and Software.

Moderators: Jason Susnjara, Larry Epplin, Clint Buechlein, Rich Kasten

DanFecteau
eCabinets Beta Tester
Posts: 258
Joined: Tue, May 10 2005, 12:00PM
Location: St-Odilon, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby DanFecteau » Fri, Jan 13 2017, 12:17PM

I don't know anymore how to set up so the cnc does not do a Pocket instead of a regular cut-out, I have a sink cut-out to do and it does it as a Pocket so it takes a lot more time to do it and I don't understand why it does it this way !! It's a part from eCab.

Thanks !

Clint Buechlein
Thermwood Team
Posts: 181
Joined: Fri, May 15 2015, 1:21PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corp
Country: UNITED STATES

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Clint Buechlein » Fri, Jan 13 2017, 1:44PM

Most likely you need to adjust your Pocket Area (Through Cuts) value in Settings of Control Nesting. Any through pocket that has an area below that value will be pocketed out completely. Any through pocket with a value in area larger than that, will be cut around the edge, and the "plug" left behind. See attached screenshot for value to modify.

-Clint-
Attachments
Pocket Area.JPG

DanFecteau
eCabinets Beta Tester
Posts: 258
Joined: Tue, May 10 2005, 12:00PM
Location: St-Odilon, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby DanFecteau » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 7:16AM

Does not seem to work ! Look at the pictures...
Attachments
IMG_3775.JPG
IMG_3774.JPG

Jason Lacireno
New Member
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu, Mar 14 2013, 7:49AM
Company Name: L-ami Du Bois
Country: CANADA

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Jason Lacireno » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 7:30AM

are you using groups?

make sure your changing the setting for the apropriate group.

my cleanup amount is always at 0" ...your settings look fine to me though.

DanFecteau
eCabinets Beta Tester
Posts: 258
Joined: Tue, May 10 2005, 12:00PM
Location: St-Odilon, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby DanFecteau » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 7:38AM

No not working with group...no idea where the problem is...

Jason Lacireno
New Member
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu, Mar 14 2013, 7:49AM
Company Name: L-ami Du Bois
Country: CANADA

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Jason Lacireno » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 7:44AM

is it drawn up to cut all the way through or just a pocket? because i'm not sure of any other reason it would do this.

write the program. do CTRL+F ...look in the programming to see if it does a (pocket clean up) or (pocket rout).

if it does a pocket Rout...then you need to re draw that pocket to cut through

Clint Buechlein
Thermwood Team
Posts: 181
Joined: Fri, May 15 2015, 1:21PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corp
Country: UNITED STATES

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Clint Buechlein » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 8:33AM

DanFecteau wrote:No not working with group...no idea where the problem is...


Can you post an export from Control Nesting? Select File, then Export. If you cannot post it here, you can email it to cabinets@thermwood.com. Make sure and put in the subject line Export from Forum so I know what it is related to. I can start with that file, but may need additional files.

-Clint-

DanFecteau
eCabinets Beta Tester
Posts: 258
Joined: Tue, May 10 2005, 12:00PM
Location: St-Odilon, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby DanFecteau » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 8:37AM

You need the .cnc ?

User avatar
Brad McIntosh
Guru Member
Posts: 483
Joined: Wed, May 18 2005, 6:59PM
Company Name: CNC Automation
Location: St. Zotique, Québec, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Brad McIntosh » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 8:49AM

Dan,

This may or may not have anything to do with your pocketing issue but...

From one of your screen captures, it looks like you are still using Control Nesting 5.93. That version was from August of 2016 and was available prior to the latest eCabinet Systems 6.1.2/6.1.3 release. Since some of the pocketing features within eCabinet Systems were "enhanced" (particularly to support "islands" or "clamp" areas) there may be some internal "linkage" within the latest Control Nesting 5.98 version that better supports the information now coming from eCabinet Systems.

While Clint and the folks at Thermwood look at your files, you may want to update your Control Nesting version of the machine to 5.98 - if only to keep up-to-date.

http://www.thermwood.com/updates_control_nesting.htm

Regards,

DanFecteau
eCabinets Beta Tester
Posts: 258
Joined: Tue, May 10 2005, 12:00PM
Location: St-Odilon, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby DanFecteau » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 8:54AM

Thanks Brad ! I'll update first !

Clint Buechlein
Thermwood Team
Posts: 181
Joined: Fri, May 15 2015, 1:21PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corp
Country: UNITED STATES

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Clint Buechlein » Mon, Jan 16 2017, 10:00AM

DanFecteau wrote:You need the .cnc ?


I need the export generated by Control Nesting. It will be a .cab file.

-Clint-

DanFecteau
eCabinets Beta Tester
Posts: 258
Joined: Tue, May 10 2005, 12:00PM
Location: St-Odilon, Quebec, Canada
Contact:

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby DanFecteau » Tue, Jan 17 2017, 8:07AM

Not working even after the upgrade, I'm sending the export by email.

Clint Buechlein
Thermwood Team
Posts: 181
Joined: Fri, May 15 2015, 1:21PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corp
Country: UNITED STATES

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby Clint Buechlein » Tue, Jan 17 2017, 10:19AM

After reviewing his export and related files, there is currently a limitation within eCabinets. He was using a Display Panel to create the part, and cut out in Part Editor. Nothing against doing that. The limitation comes in when he wrote to CNC and changed material thickness. Display Panels do not behave the same way as cabinet parts, so the Part Editor information does not behave the same way.

I personally recommend taking a regular cabinet, deleting all parts except the back. Then use it as a Display Panel. It can then be modified for size, grain direction, go into Constraint Manager, etc. Many more possibilities than a Display Panel.

-Clint-

David Egnoski
Senior Member
Posts: 182
Joined: Tue, May 17 2005, 1:05PM
Company Name: Richmond Cabinet
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Delavan, WI

Re: Cut-out instead of pocket

Postby David Egnoski » Tue, Jan 17 2017, 10:45AM

Thanks for the follow-up, Clint. Valuable info.
Dave Egnoski
Richmond Cabinet & Millwork


Return to “Thermwood 3-Axis Machinery”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests