Problem Profiling!!!!

Moderators: Jason Susnjara, Larry Epplin, Clint Buechlein, Scott G Vaal

Will Williamson
Guru Member
Posts: 449
Joined: Thu, Dec 08 2005, 6:10PM
Company Name: Williamson Finewoodwork
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Capac MI
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Will Williamson »

I can get your part to profile to the straight line in the center and it will profile from the other end back to the straight line in the center
I have had a problem with these OG profiles on a complicated part edge similar to yours in the past and Tech support could not resolve the issue They even tried using ArtCam and they could not get it to work
Will

http://www.willmade.com

KEG/Intel Core i 7 CPU K875 @ 2.93 GHZ/12G Ram
Dual boot XP PRO/Windows 7 Nvidia Quatro 600 1Gig Ram
Will Williamson
Guru Member
Posts: 449
Joined: Thu, Dec 08 2005, 6:10PM
Company Name: Williamson Finewoodwork
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Capac MI
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Will Williamson »

Are you able to create DXF files of the part and profile I have a couple more Ideas but I need the DXFs
I have spent hundreds of hours on problems like this
Will

http://www.willmade.com

KEG/Intel Core i 7 CPU K875 @ 2.93 GHZ/12G Ram
Dual boot XP PRO/Windows 7 Nvidia Quatro 600 1Gig Ram
Rick Palechuk
Wizard Member
Posts: 1896
Joined: Wed, May 18 2005, 7:54PM
Company Name: Milltech Millworks Ltd.
Country: CANADA
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Rick Palechuk »

Will, I have tried a DXF of a similar shape to Kerry's, and all I could do is the straight sections using Single selection. In Partial selection, I could only select two edges.
Kerry Fullington
Wizard Member
Posts: 4718
Joined: Mon, May 09 2005, 7:33PM
Company Name: Double E Cabinets
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Amarillo, TX

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Kerry Fullington »

Will,

Here is the part geometry and tool geometry in .dxf format.

Kerry
Attachments
Will.zip
(12.8 KiB) Downloaded 320 times
Scott G Vaal
Thermwood Team
Posts: 1740
Joined: Tue, May 17 2005, 12:44PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corporation
Location: Thermwood Corp: Dale, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Scott G Vaal »

Kerry,

Could I get you to attach the geometry that you used to create the .tol file. { filename.x_t }.
Regards,

Scott Vaal
-Thermwood/eCabinet Systems-
Dell Precision / Xeon E3-1240 / 8GB RAM /NVIDIA Quadro K2000
Kerry Fullington
Wizard Member
Posts: 4718
Joined: Mon, May 09 2005, 7:33PM
Company Name: Double E Cabinets
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Amarillo, TX

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Kerry Fullington »

Thanks Scott,

Here it is.

Scott (for your eyes only)!!!
If this turns out to be my mistake or something I have done wrong we won't need to mention it on the forum. OK? :)
Attachments
Base_02_test_05.zip
(4.31 KiB) Downloaded 328 times
Scott G Vaal
Thermwood Team
Posts: 1740
Joined: Tue, May 17 2005, 12:44PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corporation
Location: Thermwood Corp: Dale, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Scott G Vaal »

LOL, it's a Deal! Let me dig into this for a while this morning and see if I can come up with anything.
Regards,

Scott Vaal
-Thermwood/eCabinet Systems-
Dell Precision / Xeon E3-1240 / 8GB RAM /NVIDIA Quadro K2000
Kerry Fullington
Wizard Member
Posts: 4718
Joined: Mon, May 09 2005, 7:33PM
Company Name: Double E Cabinets
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Amarillo, TX

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Kerry Fullington »

I think if you would add the ability to drill holes for slide mounts in cabinet backs, it would probably fix this problem also. :lol:
Gary Campbell
Guru Member
Posts: 256
Joined: Sat, Apr 04 2009, 6:27PM
Company Name: ShopBot Tools Inc
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Durham NC

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Gary Campbell »

I dont have a dog in this fight, but it seems Kerry has officially gone over to "the dark side". He is now one of those "needy" machinists. He seems to keep coming up with one needed feature after another, and as yet, has not gone back to school to learn programming. :lol:
Gary Campbell
ShopBot Tools Production Support

ShopBot (eCabinets) Link Training & Support
Will Williamson
Guru Member
Posts: 449
Joined: Thu, Dec 08 2005, 6:10PM
Company Name: Williamson Finewoodwork
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Capac MI
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Will Williamson »

It looks as if this is not possible using Ecabinet. Are there other Thermwood software options that it will work on? Such as Master Cam or Art Cam
Will

http://www.willmade.com

KEG/Intel Core i 7 CPU K875 @ 2.93 GHZ/12G Ram
Dual boot XP PRO/Windows 7 Nvidia Quatro 600 1Gig Ram
Kerry Fullington
Wizard Member
Posts: 4718
Joined: Mon, May 09 2005, 7:33PM
Company Name: Double E Cabinets
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Amarillo, TX

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Kerry Fullington »

Will,

I can't accept that it cannot be done in eCabinets. I can get the part to profile using a chain operation so it should also perform the partial.
I can always use wider stock, profile it as a chain operation and saw off the back side. I would like it to work properly though. Parts like this are what eCabinets has always been about.
Attachments
part.jpg
Rick Palechuk
Wizard Member
Posts: 1896
Joined: Wed, May 18 2005, 7:54PM
Company Name: Milltech Millworks Ltd.
Country: CANADA
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Rick Palechuk »

Sounds like more pizza.
Scott G Vaal
Thermwood Team
Posts: 1740
Joined: Tue, May 17 2005, 12:44PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corporation
Location: Thermwood Corp: Dale, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Scott G Vaal »

Kerry,

Sorry for the delayed response back. I have this on the list to be looked at, especially the chain verses partial chain. I know that if a smaller diameter tool is used, it will perform better. Our 3rd party solids engine seems to not enjoy the tight corners that can cause the tool to wrap back over itself. We have several cases submitted to them in hopes that they are resolved or improved. I will try to keep you informed as I find anything more out on this. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards,

Scott Vaal
-Thermwood/eCabinet Systems-
Dell Precision / Xeon E3-1240 / 8GB RAM /NVIDIA Quadro K2000
Kerry Fullington
Wizard Member
Posts: 4718
Joined: Mon, May 09 2005, 7:33PM
Company Name: Double E Cabinets
Country: UNITED STATES
Location: Amarillo, TX

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Kerry Fullington »

Scott,

For your information I don't have any luck with smaller diameter tools either.

Using a partial operation I get the Sweep Operation Not Possible error with even a 1/4" diameter tool at 1/8" depth.
It of course works using a chain.
Scott G Vaal
Thermwood Team
Posts: 1740
Joined: Tue, May 17 2005, 12:44PM
Company Name: Thermwood Corporation
Location: Thermwood Corp: Dale, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Problem Profiling!!!!

Post by Scott G Vaal »

Kerry,

Can you do a partial using this tool? { Amana Tool\AMA-56208-noBEARING.tol } This one works for me. Attach the small .tol file that you used if you don't mind.
Regards,

Scott Vaal
-Thermwood/eCabinet Systems-
Dell Precision / Xeon E3-1240 / 8GB RAM /NVIDIA Quadro K2000
Post Reply