Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

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Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

Post by Stephane Kovari »

I've been trying to group a line of Drawer fronts across 3 cabinet,s approx. 30'' wide 6'' high with the grain going the length of all three cabinets.
When I add the drawers into the cabinet it always sais the width is 30'' and the height is 6'' even when I rotate the grain, and because it thinks it is 30'' wide, it doesn't nest my drawer fronts into my material at the CNC?!?
Does anyone know of a solution or why it does this??

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Re: Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

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Stephane,

Please post your assembly and I will try to figure it out for you.
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Re: Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

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Here are two assemblies that we tried. One works since the Grains is in-line with the heigth and width.
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Re: Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

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Stephane,

All seems to work here for me. I believe your issue is that you do not have the newest Control Nesting installed at your machine. Version 5.78 of CN is required to do assembly grouped parts (older versions do not know how to handle this new feature). Please verify this and let me know. One other item that I noticed was that I believe you may have your width and length swapped for your material named (MDF dos Blanc .625 4x8 bottom). This will probably give you an out of bounds message if you tried to run that sheet at the machine. Hope this helps.
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Re: Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

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The control Nesting is V5.78 but it seems to believe that the drawers are 14'' wide and 6'' high (in a way is true) but the drawer front with grain is 14'' long and 6'' wide and this causes en error in nesting at the CNC...
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Stephane,

Please send me an export from Control Nesting at the machine. To do an Export: load the .twd that causes the issue into Control Nesting, then select File -> Export, then send me the .cab file it created. (send it to cabinets@thermwood.com Attn: Scott V in the subject line)
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Re: Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

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Stephane,

Thanks for getting me the export file. It helped me isolate the problem. It is a bug with assembly grouping that ONLY happens when multiple grain matched assemblies exist in a single Batch Job. We will have this resolved in the next eCabSys build, but for now, you can get them to nest/cut just fine by placing them into a Custom Layout (a room) instead and then creating the CNC. Or you could also put each assembly into a separate batch job and then load them together at the machine (Control Nesting) and they will nest fine as well.
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Re: Group Parts - Drawers - Assembly

Post by Stephane Kovari »

The new Update has resolved this problem!! Thank You!!!

All thats missing for us now is an option for shelf holes in the back and to be able to split backs without using stretchers :)

Again Thanks!
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