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Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Stuart Douglas » Mon, Oct 16 2017, 9:39AM

Must be Monday. I opened ECabS this morning, altered an existing cabinet, then saved it as a cabinet in its job folder. I wrote the TWD file from the little CNC button in the cabinet edit toolbar (left, on-screen) then tried to generate the cutlist from the create cutlist toolbar icon. Up pops the window, but the button for save/opening the excel sheet has disappeared! I loaded the cabinet into a batch and saved the batch file. repeated the steps to generate the cutlist, but still no button to open/save the excel file. :wall:

I've restarted ECabS and my computer, to no avail. Some Gremlin in there? Has anyone else ever experienced this? :shock:

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Brad McIntosh » Mon, Oct 16 2017, 9:48AM

This is a known issue that arose after a Microsoft Windows Update. It affects Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 10.

Thermwood is working on a permanent solution

There is a temporary fix (for Win7 & Win10 - not sure about Win8):

  • On Windows 7 uninstall KB4041681 and KB4041678.
  • On Windows 10 uninstall KB4041676."

You must UNINSTALL. Do NOT simply delete the updates.

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Stuart Douglas » Mon, Oct 16 2017, 9:51AM

Good to know it wasn't me! Thanks Brad! :beer:

That said, is there another known update that causes problems? I don't see

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Jeremy Schiffer » Wed, Oct 18 2017, 10:15AM

For Win 8 it is KB4041693.
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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Donald Thomson » Mon, Oct 30 2017, 2:01PM

Been searching my computer to the two KB's for Windows 7. Can't find them in Control Panel or in the registration database. Where do you find them to uninstall them?

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Scott Marshburn » Mon, Oct 30 2017, 2:46PM

Donald Thomson wrote:Been searching my computer to the two KB's for Windows 7. Can't find them in Control Panel or in the registration database. Where do you find them to uninstall them?

Thank you.

Hi, Donald. This link may help. https://www.ghacks.net/2014/12/11/how-t ... fterwards/
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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Clint Buechlein » Tue, Oct 31 2017, 12:29PM

As a note, on my Windows 10 computer I did not have the above mentioned updates installed. I had to uninstall KB4041691 to get mine to work.

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Donald Thomson » Tue, Oct 31 2017, 1:48PM

Need to turn of automatic updates ;) I uninstalled the KB update and when I went to turned my machine off for the night it downloaded the KB update and put it right back on my machine. Ughhhh...... :wall:
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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Stuart Douglas » Wed, Nov 01 2017, 7:00AM

Donald Thomson wrote:Need to turn of automatic updates ;) I uninstalled the KB update and when I went to turned my machine off for the night it downloaded the KB update and put it right back on my machine. Ughhhh...... :wall:


The issue that is getting me, is that Windows 10 Home edition (the one that is on my work computer) has no way to disable the auto updates for windows. I found a work around (WUSHOWHIDE) but for some reason the uninstallation of the KB4041691 always fails. And since my restore points fail also , all I can do is just wait for MS to fix their fix.

There MUST be a way to get ECabS cutlist raw data exported. The raw data is there, I can doctor it up to export to any spreadsheet or database. I just can't seem to get at the raw data without that button. :fire:

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Donald Thomson » Wed, Nov 01 2017, 11:22AM

I worked for Microsoft for 7 years. When we got reports of applications not working after an update/upgrade, 99 times out of 100 it was because the application developers had bypassed the application programming interface (API) provided by Microsoft and started making calls to functions that resided in lower levels of the operating system. Microsoft always reserved the right to change anything below the API. If applications used the API, and didn't bypass it, compatibility was assured by Microsoft and if an application broke MS programmers jumped on it immediately to fix the problem, or even go so far as to provide a custom function call just for that application.

I suspect one of the lower level libraries that eCabs uses bypasses the API. This is what breaks applications most of the time.

At least this has been my experience. I did get out of software development about 17 years ago, so I'm pretty sure a lot of things have changed significantly since then... :D
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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Scott Marshburn » Thu, Nov 02 2017, 7:10AM

I am not sure if this will work for those who can not turn off windows10 auto updates. I have noticed that when I generate the eCabinets cut list it sends it to the temp folder at C:\Users\Public\Documents\Thermwood\eCabinet Systems\temp without having to click on the export button. You could open the cut list file from there.
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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby tim lucas » Thu, Nov 02 2017, 7:47PM

Yep there it is in Windows 7 Pro, how about that
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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Stuart Douglas » Mon, Nov 06 2017, 7:57AM

Scott Marshburn wrote:I am not sure if this will work for those who can not turn off windows10 auto updates. I have noticed that when I generate the eCabinets cut list it sends it to the temp folder at C:\Users\Public\Documents\Thermwood\eCabinet Systems\temp without having to click on the export button. You could open the cut list file from there.


Well, I'm afraid this doesn't seem to work for me, running windows 10 home. This solution (the temp file) is what I was hoping for when I talked to Dan @ TW when I called and asked about it. He told me that MS is working on the patch.

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Re: Cutlist Save/open button

Postby Donald Thomson » Wed, Nov 08 2017, 5:12PM

Scott Marshburn wrote:I am not sure if this will work for those who can not turn off windows10 auto updates. I have noticed that when I generate the eCabinets cut list it sends it to the temp folder at C:\Users\Public\Documents\Thermwood\eCabinet Systems\temp without having to click on the export button. You could open the cut list file from there.


I tried opening the file and Excel says it is corrupt and can't be repaired by Excel. Not sure why.... :?
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