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Ramp for pockets

Postby Kyle Koehn » Mon, Dec 18 2017, 7:50PM

Is there any way to set the ramps different for the types of operations? I am cutting shaker style mdf doors and so would like a larger ramp for my larger fly-cutter type tool that I am using for that pocket operation. But I don't want to use a large ramp for my outline/rout operations.

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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Thomas strembitsky » Tue, Dec 19 2017, 11:50AM

in control nestings setting you have options for setting the ramp in length and depth for outline and rout operations
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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Brad McIntosh » Wed, Dec 20 2017, 9:08AM

Thomas,

I believe that Kyle is aware of those settings, but my interpretation is that he would like a separate set of parameters for the "area clearance part" of the Pocketing operation.
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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Kyle Koehn » Wed, Dec 20 2017, 10:10AM

Yep, What Brad said. Maybe in the pocket area or something. It actually is working now fairly well. I can just set the rout area to one things when I am running mdf doors and then change it back when I am doing other parts. The problem is just when I am doing other parts in the same nest. It is helpful to have that separate setting from the outline cut.

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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Ian Richardson » Mon, Jan 29 2018, 9:05AM

What about using group settings. Make your Mdf door material separate and apply settings specifically for that group

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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Brad McIntosh » Mon, Jan 29 2018, 10:07AM

Ian,

Your suggestion is good if Kyle just wanted different "Outline" and/or "Rout/Dado" "Ramp" settings for MDF as a whole.

What Kyle is looking for is differing "Ramp" settings between "Pocket" and "Rout/Dado" operations within the same material. Currently the "Ramp" settings for "Rout/Dado" are also used for "Pocket" operations. He would like to have one set of "Ramp" settings for "Rout/Dados" and another separate set for "Pockets".

Adding a "Pocket Pre-Ramp Depth" and a "Pocket Ramp Length" setting would solve this. (Perhaps if implemented, "BLANK" (undefined) values in either would then have Control Nesting use the "Rout/Dado" settings used by default?)

! - One could go even one step further and have "Operation/Tool Level" "Pre-Ramp Depth" and "Ramp Length" settings for both "Rout/Dado" and "Pocket". Again, if those values are "BLANK" (undefined), Control Nesting could default to the "General Settings" defined globally for that material.
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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Kyle Koehn » Mon, Jan 29 2018, 12:13PM

Or even to get to the real heart of the matter would be if I could add a ramp setting to a tool. I am using a flycutter type tool for pocketing out shaker style mdf doors and so a short ramp setting really gets hard on the tool.

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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Brad McIntosh » Mon, Jan 29 2018, 12:39PM

Kyle,

That is why at the end of my last post I had added...
! - One could go even one step further and have "Operation/Tool Level" "Pre-Ramp Depth" and "Ramp Length" settings for both "Rout/Dado" and "Pocket". Again, if those values are "BLANK" (undefined), Control Nesting could default to the "General Settings" defined globally for that material.
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Re: Ramp for pockets

Postby Tommy Wieler » Wed, Jan 31 2018, 12:15PM

We also use a flycutter type tool for pocketing on mdf shaker style doors, and we were able to lengthen the tool's ramp-in length by changing the rout/dado length setting
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Below are our tooling settings for the pocketing tool.
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