FF part flipped over

Leo Graywacz · Post by **Leo Graywacz** » Tue, May 08 2007, 11:34PM

This happens all the time since I upgraded from 5.0 to 5.1.2. Now I have upgraded to 5.1.3 and it is still happening. I have a bottom rail with a parts editor cut in it. It is my standard FF. It flips these over when I save them and I can't figure out how to flip them back. If someone can do it can you please explain to me the steps on how? Thanks.

OK, for the Thermwood team. I got it to do it on a consistent basis. If you take the cabinet and open it in the cabinet editor and then you add an assembly it will flip the bottom rail over.

The cabinet is 'cabinet w-wine rack - Maple.hsf'. Take this cabinet and open it in the cab editor. Then open the menu and add an assy. When it applies the constraint manager limitations it will flip the bottom rail over, resulting in the file '30 inch pantry cabinet w-wine rack - Maple.hsf' (minus the wine rack) with the upside down bottom rail. I hope this works for you as it is a very annoying problem. But now that I see what is causing it I might be able to avoid it. If you open the assembly first and then add the cabinet it will not happen. Just the other way around. Happy de-bugging.

Rick Palechuk · Post by **Rick Palechuk** » Wed, May 09 2007, 2:23PM

I couldn't open the file last night Leo. It downloaded fine, but all I got was HSF errors.

Al Navas · Post by **Al Navas** » Wed, May 09 2007, 2:53PM

I opened your cabinet first, THEN added an assembly created during the eCabinet Systems seminar last week. Then I saved the whole thing as an ***assembly***, and it seems to have worked.

BUT - the crown molding is now gone!

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Leo Graywacz · Post by **Leo Graywacz** » Wed, May 09 2007, 3:54PM

Rick Palechuk wrote:I couldn't open the file last night Leo. It downloaded fine, but all I got was HSF errors.

Which file Rick, or both. It tool me a while to get the right files onto the site, I had to redo it a few times before I got the right ones up there. But that shouldn't really matter.

Leo Graywacz · Post by **Leo Graywacz** » Wed, May 09 2007, 6:09PM

OK, here are some specific cabinets and assemblies to make the problem happen. The 'wine grid' and the 'cabinet w-wine rack' cabinet. Open the 'cabinet w-wine rack.hsf' in the cabinet editor then open the assembly 'wine grid.esa' in the editor next and this should have the effect of flipping the bottom rail over.

Al Navas · Post by **Al Navas** » Wed, May 09 2007, 6:22PM

Leo,

1. I followed your instructions to the letter. No change to the rail.

2. Saved the modified file as an assembly.

3. Still within the cab editor I clicked on NEW, and opened the saved assembly. You can see the results below. No change to the rail.

Leo Graywacz · Post by **Leo Graywacz** » Wed, May 09 2007, 6:26PM

Huh, works for me on both my desktop and laptop. I wonder what gives? Thanks for trying.

Anyone else?

Kerry Fullington · Post by **Kerry Fullington** » Wed, May 09 2007, 7:23PM

Leo,
No problem here either.
Kerry

Leo Graywacz · Post by **Leo Graywacz** » Wed, May 09 2007, 7:38PM

Flips every time for me.

Kerry Fullington · Post by **Kerry Fullington** » Wed, May 09 2007, 7:54PM

I'll bet the ecab guys can figure it out. I had some top rails that were doing that a while back but it cured itself with one of the builds.
Kerry

Michael Yeargain · Post by **Michael Yeargain** » Wed, May 09 2007, 10:14PM

The rails change (flip) when I change materials for a few cabinets at a time in the room. It started back after this new build.

What's even stranger is when I select all the cabinets and change the materials, 1. face frames flip, and sometimes 2. a few cabinets just plain out right disapear.

Rick Palechuk · Post by **Rick Palechuk** » Thu, May 10 2007, 1:18AM

What build are you on?

Leo Graywacz · Post by **Leo Graywacz** » Thu, May 10 2007, 7:17AM

The seed cabinet was originally built in v5.0 but I am on the current v5.1.3. It doesn't flip when I use the v5,0 which I have saved because it seems to work faster in most respects, especially with drawers. I would redo the cabinets but for the life of me I can't redo the toekick I made, The newer versions just won't let me do it the way I did it in v5.0 for some reason.

Rick Palechuk · Post by **Rick Palechuk** » Thu, May 10 2007, 7:27AM

That's probably why I can't open them. I'm half way through a layout right now and a little reluctant to upgrade.

Mitch Cain · Post by **Mitch Cain** » Thu, May 10 2007, 7:32AM

Leo - turn your monitor over...

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