can't change cabinet size

[Mark Hesketh]

k, having troubles with trying to chane the size of one of my cabinets. it's a pretty simple cabinet, but everytime i try to change the size it give me a message that there was a problem with the right gable, continue and loose part editor cuts or revert to previuos cabinet. even if i say constinue, and try to go back and replace those parts, i get error messages trying to exit part editor that it violates ideal tennons and must revert to previous cabinet... there are no tennons! and it also won't open the right gable in the constraint manager.

this is just a new twist to my ongoing problems with right gables. my other problem is that if i take one of my base units, edit the width, then use part editor to cut away the bottom of the right gable to make a return kick, i will loose all part editor cuts (without it telling me). you can see they are gone when you nest the cabinet. and it won't let you reoplace those part editor features again.

if anyone has a solution to this, please let me know. i am posting the cabinet that ecabs won't let me resize. I need it to be 36.75 wide, 27 high, and 30 deep. if somebody who is not running into these issues could edit it for me and repost it, i would really appreciate it.

oh... and i need to find a way to be able to edit cabinets without loosing my right gables...

[Mark Hesketh]

crap. forgot to post the cabinet, here it is

[Scott G Vaal]

Mark,

I removed the part editor cuts from the right end, and added them back on and now it seems that the cabinet regenerates and resizes just fine for me. Please try the attached cabinet and see if you have the same behavior. I did notice that the left end believed it had part editor cuts on it but I could not see any cuts?? I right clicked on the left end and then selected \"remove part editor cuts\"-> \"from selected part\": That in itself did not cause any problems, I just wanted to clean it up. Let me know what you find.

[Scott G Vaal]

oh... and i need to find a way to be able to edit cabinets without loosing my right gables... :wall: :wall: :wall:

Mark,

Sorry, I forgot to add this to my last post: Could you please post a cabinet and some steps that cause this right gable issue?

[Mark Hesketh]

k, here is one of my standard cabinets which gives me problems lately. though the same problems are happening with all of my base units.

i enter the batch editor and add a base unit with a new dimension, problems happen most often if the new size is smaller than the seed cabinet size. i then open the cabinet in the cabinet editor and take the right gable to the parts editor. i create a rectangle from -1,4.5 and stretch i t across to fully cover the lower portion of the gable. i cut that rectangle away, leaving the gable ending at the top of the kick. i then change the material of the right gable to say maple/white or oak/white, but the problems sometimes happen without changing materials. i then save the changes to the cabinet and return to the batch editor. everything at this point will look fine. if you nest the job though, that right gable will appear with NO part editor cuts on it, including the rectangle i just cut away. if you then open that problem cabinet in cabinet editor, it will not let you make any changes to the right gable other than to change the material. what i am having to do to get around it is to change that material into a \"do not cut\" material for just the right gable. then i insert the same seed cabinet, but leave it at it's seed size. the problem does not show up unless i change the cabinet dimensions. i then edit that new cabinet's right gable to what i want, and change the rest of the parts in the cabinet to a \"do not cut\" material.

this problem is only happening with cabinets where i have to edit the right gable. but what worries me now is starting to run into issues with the right gables of other cabinets like that which Scott solved earlier. but it is always the right gable that is the problem. it shouldn't be happening, and i have no idea why it might be. any insight would be very welcome!

[Scott G Vaal]

Mark,

I wanted to let you know what I found with this issue. I can reproduce the part editor cut disappearing only if I change the right ends material from the batch area. If I change the right ends material in the cabinet editor itself, I do not get any problems. Here is what I have done to reproduce your issue:

* Load the KBDOD cabinet into batch (do not have to change size)
* Take this cabinet from batch to the Cabinet/Assembly editor
* Cut the toe area away on the right end {a.k.a. gable} (as you described in your post)
* Return cabinet to the batch saving the changes
* Select \"change sheet stock\" in the batch area, just change the right ends material to a different 3/4\" material, select OK.
* Go to nest diagrams and nest this cabinet: all looks correct.
* Go back to batch and take the cabinet again to the cabinet/assembly editor: The part editor cuts do not show etc. NOTE: I can regenerate the cabinet (construction settings, then select OK) and the cabinet will be back to the way it should be.

This is the only way I can reproduce what you mention here and we will have this resolved for the next build.

Can you reproduce this in any other fashion?? If so, could you please give me the steps so I can make sure and resolve it as well? Please feel free to call me personally if you would like. Some times it can speed up the process to call rather then trying to type it all here on the forum and possibly miscommunication. (1-800-533-6901 ask for Scott) Thank you for your help and sorry for your inconvenience.