Line Drawing Editor
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Andrew S Ross
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Line Drawing Editor
Does anyone else have a problem with eCab freezing up when using the Line Drawing Editor? It froze up on me 7 times yesterday and 4 times so far today. This has got to be the programs biggest issue in my eyes. If anybody else has this same problem, please let me know. Thanks, Andrew.
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DanEpps
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Re: Line Drawing Editor
Does this happen on all jobs or just some jobs? If just some jobs, post one so someone can look at it.
How complex are your drawings (lots of moldings, pulls)?
How many pages of drawings do you have?
What are your computer specs?
How complex are your drawings (lots of moldings, pulls)?
How many pages of drawings do you have?
What are your computer specs?
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Andrew S Ross
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Re: Line Drawing Editor
Dan: this just seems to happen at random times on random jobs. I can save the file just fine and then 5 min later, with no changes having been made, the system will lock up on me. It can be on a job that has anywhere from 1 to 13 pages of drawings. My PC is a Pentium 4, 2.4Ghz Quad Core, with 3.25 Gigs or RAM and a GeForce 9800GT video card. This system was purchased specifically to run eCab. I have recieved an error code for the first time now. It comes up "Fatal Error (3/4) From Hoops Routine 'Copy_segment' No more memory available". Being that it is a HOOPS Routine error, it is a problem with the C++ coding as far as I can tell. If you could advise how to correct this, I would greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Andrew.
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DanEpps
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Re: Line Drawing Editor
The error you got says you are trying to put too much into the job. Windows can only allocate 4GB of virtual address space for each process, regardless of how much RAM or virtual memory (pagefile) you have.
The way the Line Drawing Editor currently works, every object is a full 3D copy of the original object and it takes the same amount of virtual address space for it. If the job takes, say, 512MB of virtual address space and you create 8 pages of the job in the Line Drawing Editor, you will exceed Windows addressing capabilities (512MB x 9 copies = 4.5GB).
Try taking one of the jobs giving problems and deleting some of the LDE pages (make a copy of the original first) to see if that helps. If so, you might have to break your jobs into smaller, partial jobs.
Your system looks okay with the possible exception of the video card. It is a gaming card wih only secondary support for OpenGL, which eCabinets relies on for graphics rendering. Even though it says it has 512MB of RAM, many gaming cards actually have less and "steal" system RAM when needed. Again, I don't know whether this is the case or not with this particular GeForce but some of them advertise 512MB when they actually have only 128MB. nVidia's website doesn't say whether it has dedicated or shared memory on it.
The way the Line Drawing Editor currently works, every object is a full 3D copy of the original object and it takes the same amount of virtual address space for it. If the job takes, say, 512MB of virtual address space and you create 8 pages of the job in the Line Drawing Editor, you will exceed Windows addressing capabilities (512MB x 9 copies = 4.5GB).
Try taking one of the jobs giving problems and deleting some of the LDE pages (make a copy of the original first) to see if that helps. If so, you might have to break your jobs into smaller, partial jobs.
Your system looks okay with the possible exception of the video card. It is a gaming card wih only secondary support for OpenGL, which eCabinets relies on for graphics rendering. Even though it says it has 512MB of RAM, many gaming cards actually have less and "steal" system RAM when needed. Again, I don't know whether this is the case or not with this particular GeForce but some of them advertise 512MB when they actually have only 128MB. nVidia's website doesn't say whether it has dedicated or shared memory on it.
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DanEpps
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Re: Line Drawing Editor
Digging a little deeper, it looks like your video card does indeed have 512MB of dedicated memory. That is good and shouldn't be causing problems.
Make sure you have the latest drivers from nVidia installed.
Make sure you have the latest drivers from nVidia installed.