Upper corner cabinet

[Jean G Voyer]

I am trying to use an upper corner cabinet out of a library that was made in version 5. I want to change right and left depth to 12 1/2". It shows that measurement in the display but when I run the pointer over the part or when I do a measuring it shows 13 1/8". Does it mean it's an issue between V5 & V6 and do I have to rebuild my library?

[Jean G Voyer]

I tried with a cabinet made in V6 and the same thing happens. So here is the cabinet.

[Brad McIntosh]

Jean,

Does this upper corner cabinet have an angled front?

If so, and you do not miter cut the front edges of the left and right ends - you need to reduce the left and right depths by 5/8". (12.5-0.635=11.875) This brings the corner cabinet in line with your standard 12.5" deep uppers.

Don't forget that once you change the left and right depths, you need to go back and reset the left and right back widths to 24". (Always change end-depths FIRST and back-widths after.)

[Jean G Voyer]

Thanks Brad,
I realized that by trying to change the depth by 5/8" and it worked. It's a little bit of a bummer though. Who wants to miter the front edge of those sides? I have seen a lot of frameless done by different companies and never seen mitered edges by anyone. I don't see how that would work with the door on and an adjacent cabinet. I'd like to learn.

[Jean G Voyer]

Brad,
I was looking to experiment with mitering the front edge of the side but it seems that you can do that only with face frame cabinets. Since 98% of my cabinets are frameless how do you miter the front edge? If not possible, why do we have to deal with that in frameless?

[Brad McIntosh]

Jean,

I was looking to experiment with mitering the front edge of the side but it seems that you can do that only with face frame cabinets.

I believe you may be refering to the setting: "ANGLED FRONT FACE FRAME SETTING - Left and Right Sides Mitered [ ]". If I am not mistaken, this setting in fact deals with mitering of the face frame stile components and not the actual ends.

I am not a cabinetmaker, but I have seen a few (read very few) clients that do miter that front edge. As far as I know, most would simply angle the blade and trim that front edge off on the table saw.

This automatic allowance for the "Mitered Front Edge" on an angular corner cabinet is similar to the automatic mitered center-back allowances that eCab performs. A nice function, if you use it - an issue to workaround if you do not. The "Mitered Center Back" switch was introduced in V6 and allows you to turn this added allowance off and have eCab simply "butt" the center-back against the left and right back components.

What now would be nice is a "Mitered Front Edge" switch on both the left and right end components (on centrally in the CORNER SETTINGS tab) for corner cabinets. This would eliminate the manual shortening and resizing when not mitering the front edges and would handle material changes automatically. (** Remember that the manual adjustments that you make to the left and right end depths are material thickness specific and have to be redone for materials of different thickness.)

[Michael S Murray]

Jean, I dont know any one who mitres a frame less, it create a lot of problems, edge banding would be one. Different reveals oon the hinges would be another.
We do use a transition moulding to account for out of square corners and hides the door gap.
You can see examples of this on Bob Buckleys true 32 web site, or many other places. He actually sels that transition moulding if you dont care to make it yourself
I dont beleive there is any close up shots of that detail on my web site.
HTH

[Jean G Voyer]

Hi Mike,

I do that kind of molding as well when I have a door with a pretty big profile to fill up the gap. No I was just surprise that ecabinet doesn't work the frameless differently then the frame cabinet. I don't see a miter edge to be any practical use at all.
Thanks and have a good Easter weekend.