What the $@#*( is going on???

[Donald Thomson]

I've got a kitchen, bathrooms and island with cabinets. All the cabinets use Rustic hickory for faceframes (including mid rails and stiles), doors and drawer fronts (verified in the cutlist). I was notified the customer decided to change the island cabinet from a rustic hickory to a painted cabinet. I took the island cabinet into the cabinet editor and changed the faceframes to Generic 3/4 and doors and drawer fronts to hard maple for painting.

I saved the island cabinet and went back to my room. I ran the cutlist to make sure that I now had the correct material and the amount I needed for all the cabinets, including the generic and hard maple for the island. Much to my surprise, all the material in all the cabinets, faceframes (except mid stiles and rails), doors and drawer fronts had been changed to generic material.

There seems to be a bug when it comes to remembering what material is used for what. The program seems to change material for cabinet parts at will. This makes it really tough (next to impossible) to get an accurate and reliable material BOM from the program.

I can ZIP the job and send it to someone at TWD to research. I would like to get started on this job but the random changing of materials is making it difficult to put a accurate material list together for my suppliers.

Another bug TWD might want to look into is changing material for faceframes. Why is it that while in the Cabinet Editor I can use Construction Settings to change all rails, stiles, mid rails and mid stiles to another material and everything gets changed EXCEPT the mid rails and stiles. I have to go into the fraceframe editor to change these. Makes no sense at all having to go into another editor and take a lot of time watching the hour glass twirl around while I wait for the program to make the changes.

[Forrest Chapman]

Donald, You are probably experiencing an issue where you changed materials from within Batch or Custom Layout. Those changes only effect the cabinet while in CL but not the original defaults. The defaults can only be overridden while in CE.

To answer your question about changing FF material from the CE. The mid stile and rails are locked unless you go into FF editor and select them. This is because there are commonly more than 1 of each and they may be different sizes. To avoid changing the size of any inadvertently they are locked unless selected.

Forrest

[Donald Thomson]

Forest,

What I did was selected one of the cabinets from my room layout. I took it into CE. Then went into door/drawer editor. In there I deleted all the doors and drawers in the cabinet. I selected a new default door and drawer front with the new material I wanted (build in house). I then added all new doors and drawers. I exited. Saved the cabinet to my cabinet library. Then returned to the room layout saving the changes on the way. I ran cutlist and found that the material for ALL of my cabinets had been changed.

This just seems wrong that the program would do that. Very frustrating to think I now have to spend 3 or more hours (85% of that watching the hour glass spinning) changing the material back to what it is supposed to be. One step forward, three steps backward.

[Kerry Fullington]

Donald,
I can't say what is happening with your job material change without seeing the job but the stile and rail thing is not a bug it is by design.
Just like joinery for fixed shelves,Partitions and stretchers, Stiles and Rails keep the information and materials they were created with. You must change them by selecting them in the appropriate editor and changing them there.

Something to check for your speed thing,

When I first installed eCabinets on the laptop I currently use, it had Intel graphics as well as the nVidia Graphics, Windows was using the Intel graphics for eCabinets instead of the nVidia card. (I think it was part of the laptop power scheme.) I finally had to uninstall the Intel drivers to force eCabinets to use the nVidia card. Maybe something for you to look at.

[Donald Thomson]

Kerry,

Thank you for the clarification on the faceframes. I never understood why I couldn't make changes outside the faceframe editor - now I do.

I am running a Dell XPS tower system quad core processor, 16GB ram Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, with ATI Radeon HD 4800 series video card running dual monitors (one analog the other digital - eCabs runs on the digital LCD). The video drivers from ATI are the latest they have. All my other applications scream with this setup.

I have noticed a very notable slow down with Build 13 versus Build 12. 12 was much faster. Nothing in my computer configuration changed between 12 and 13 other then eCabs itself.

[Scott G Vaal]

I can ZIP the job and send it to someone at TWD to research. I would like to get started on this job but the random changing of materials is making it difficult to put a accurate material list together for my suppliers.

Please send the job to cabinets@thermwood.com Attn: Scott in the subject. Please give me concise steps that you take to reproduce the issue. Thanks.

[Donald Thomson]

I would like to thank Scott so VERY much for his help in getting this issue understood. There were a lot of things that I was unaware of in door operations with eCabs. Scott was so gracious to walk me thru several time saving ways to do things and helped me to understand a lot of the interdependency's between different editors. It was a WOW moment on my part that is for sure.

You guys at Thermwood are the best!!!!!

Thank you, Scott, for all your help and the time you spent controlling my computer showing me different things. One heck of a learning experience.