What is wrong with this cabinet?

[Kerry Fullington]

Open the BEFORE cabinet in the cabinet editor.
Take the cabinet to the Molding Editor
Click Add Top Molding and let it add crown using the default settings.
After it adds the crown click Main to go back to the main editor.
everything works as it should.
exit the Cabinet editor without saving

Follow the same procedure using the AFTER cabinet.
When you try to go back to the Main screen you will get this error.

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The only difference between the BEFORE and AFTER cabinets is the fact that the AFTER cabinet was placed in a room and saved.
I then closed the room, re-opened the room and took the cabinet to the cabinet editor.
I have several of these cabinets with split backs and decks in my library and the all behave the same way. You can't edit materials or anything after these cabinets are placed in a room and saved.

[Mark McCallum]

Ki Kerry
I get the same message with your cabinets.

[Clint Buechlein]

The only difference between the BEFORE and AFTER cabinets is the fact that the AFTER cabinet was placed in a room and saved.
I then closed the room, re-opened the room and took the cabinet to the cabinet editor.
I have several of these cabinets with split backs and decks in my library and the all behave the same way. You can't edit materials or anything after these cabinets are placed in a room and saved.

Kerry,

What are your exact steps in this procedure? Below are some questions for along the way to keep in mind. The more exact the better chance I have of getting the issue replicated.

When you close the room do you close eCabinets also? If yes do you save again at the dialog that comes up?
When you reopen the room, you select the cabinet, then choose the Edit icon? Or from the right click menu?
To create your After cabinet, was it the Before cabinet saved as a different name? Or does it happen if you save over top of the original?

-Clint-

[Kerry Fullington]

Clint,

Of course I can't reproduce this now. Since this post I have had this issue a couple more times on different jobs with different cabinets. The cabinets are always those with several insets and stretchers to create the cabinet.

I am going to answer your questions anyway, in case it might help. I will keep trying to re-create this.

When you close the room do you close eCabinets also? If yes do you save again at the dialog that comes up?

Yes I close eCabinets and save the job at the dialog as well

When you reopen the room, you select the cabinet, then choose the Edit icon? Or from the right click menu?

I always use the keyboard shortcut "e"

To create your After cabinet, was it the Before cabinet saved as a different name? Or does it happen if you save over top of the original?

Yes the "After" cabinet was just the "Before" cabinet saved with a different name. The problem happens with cabinets that are saved inside a job in Custom Layout. I save the job with the working cabinet in it and when I re-open the job and try to edit the cabinet I get the locked opening error.

Thanks for looking at this. I will try to get more info as it happens again.

There are some issues with eCabinets that require shutting down the computer as well as eCabinets to remedy. This may be one of them.

[Rob Davis]

I have exactly the same issue. Just upgraded to new version and now I can't add fixed shelves to this cabinet nor can I equalize the space. The top is inset 2 ways so think Kerry might be right about inset making this happen.(?)

Unworkable construction for fixed opening.

If I go back and make the top insets all back to 0.00, all works. Something in the offset is making shelves not work in latest update.

[Rob Davis]

Clarification: I do not have this cabinet in a room. I just am building this cabinet from library. I don't even have it saved to a job file yet. Just a single cabinet.

[Kerry Fullington]

Here is another cabinet with the same problem from another job. I still can't find what is causing this.

[Kerry Fullington]

Open the cabinet 22 from my post above in the cabinet editor.
Try to change the width.
You should get the unworkable dimension for locked opening error
Exit the cabinet editor without saving the cabinet.

Open the cabinet 22 in the cabinet editor again.
Click on the Face Frame Editor Icon.
In the Face Frame Editor click on the Add Face Frame drop down menu and Add a Bottom Rail
Click on the bottom rail to select it, then hit Delete on your keyboard
Click on the Main Icon to exit the Face Frame Editor
You should now be able to change width on the cabinet.

[Rob Davis]

Bump.... Hey Thermwood, you out there? I need to build this cabinet please.

[Nicolas Barbeito]

Rob, for some reason your cabinet has two left ends???? I think that's your issue. When I grab the one and delete it, another one is revealed.

[Rob Davis]

How odd is that???
Nicolas, Thanks!! But curiously, how did you ever discover this? What made you look for 2 left ends? Never seen this before.

[Stuart Douglas]

Rob, for some reason your cabinet has two left ends???? I think that's your issue. When I grab the one and delete it, another one is revealed.

How on earth do you even GET two left ends? Also, If we can have two left ends, then that might solve some cabinet conundrums I've had trouble designing in the past.

[Nicolas Barbeito]

I checked several things that a popped that error for me before but nothing happened. Then I checked to see if you had any weird settings, nothing there. My next step is usually to just start deleting things and see what pops (not usually a double end! normally it's just finding out where precisely the issue was). I deleted/reinstalled the top and nothing changed, same error. At that point I noticed that the left end as I spun the cabinet around was rendered weird. It looked a little glitchy. So I grabbed it and deleted it and lo and behold, there was another one.

[Tom Nienow]

I've had the same thing come up several times. I wind up deleting the cabinet and creating a new one to bring back into the room

[Donald Thomson]

I've had several instanced where the cabinet somehow becomes corrupted. Sides that no longer line up, backs halfway into the cabinet, decks all of a sudden made with another material, etc. Somewhere, somehow the data for the cabinet gets corrupted. I don't know if the programmers would be able to track this down or not as it's very random and intermittent. The worst kind of bug to find....