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Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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I realize there are bigger fish to fry at the moment, but did come across this.

I use a modified slide hole pattern to create the notch and holes, suspension blocks, on my wall cabinet sides. When the notch overlaps the outside (back) edge of the cabinet side, as it needs to do to create a clean cutout, it disappears. It works fine if the notch is set right at the outside edge, but it can't overhang. On the attached cabinet if you reduce the depth slightly, it causes the notch to overhang the edge, and it disappears.

I do realize I could do this in the Part Editor and Constraint M anager, but already spend far too much time in those areas just doing routing tasks. This is quicker. I also realize this isn't the intended use of the slide pattern, but does unearth an issue, albeit minor.
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Nat,

Very clever.

Can you send me the hole pattern to create this cut out. Any instructions for what you did may prove helpful as well.

I look forward to try helping you with this.
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Ryan

I've sent you an e-mail with the pattern.

Thanks,
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Nat,

Thanks for the pattern. I have been working extensively with this and so far have not been able to reproduce this from scratch starting with a Version 6 Standard Cabinet.

I am able to see what you are talking about using your cabinet, but I am unsure as to what is causing this. I get an Error in ConvertBodyToSheetBody message when going into the PE after loading the cabinet. Are you getting this same error as well?

So at this point, I think there may some some issue with the upgrade of this cabinet. If you could, and I know time is hard to come by for this, but could you please try to make this starting from scratch to see if you can reproduce it. Assuming you can, then please post this new cabinet as well and any steps you think might have been the cause of it.

Hopefully with your help, I will be able to solve this for you.
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Ryan,

I've attached a Standard Base Frameless cabinet, with the hole pattern applied. In the Part Editor, the outline of the notches appear, but not the actual notches. In the nest, it looks like the notches may cut, but wasn't certain. In the nest, you'll notice that the pattern has attached itself the cabinet back, as well.

When I decreased the depth of the cabinet, the pattern didn't disappear, as it had on my original cabinet. When I have a chance, I'll add some features to this cabinet, that my original had, and see what that turns up.

Thanks,
Nat
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Nat,

You are seeing what I am seeing then.

The reason that it does not show as cutting completely through is that the depth of the cut is only 0.748" and the material is 0.750", so it is leaving a 0.020" skin on one side. You can see this in the PE by selecting the 3D view and moving it around.

So, the only thing I am seeing here is that there is still a skin being formed by the back side. I have not checked yet, but this could result in a strange CNC output if it tries to leave this skin on the part during the machining. So this might be a proposed issue for now and added to a wish list if this is the case.

Let me know if I can help explain further.
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Ryan,

I reduced the material thickness for the sides, and the notch does appear to cut all the way through, even when it overhangs the edge, which is good. I'm not clear on why it doesn't work on my V5 cabinets, I imagine I'll need to redo those.

In the nest there's still the problem of the pattern attaching itself to the cabinet back, . On my original cabinet, it had attached itself to one of the stretchers, creating a tooling error when I went to cut.

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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Even though the notch doesn't display in the Part Editor, according to the nest, it does look like it will cut. For some reason the notch attaches itself to adjacent parts if it touches on them. I shifted it away from all parts slightly, and was able to get around this.

There is an issue updating the drawer box slide slide pattern in the drawer box editor. I modified the pattern, re-applied it to the selected drawer box, but the change didn't take. I deleted the drawer, the re-created it, and the old pattern still was showing up. I tried a number of other things and still couldn't get the new slide pattern to apply to the cabinet. Finally, I applied an alternate slide pattern, returned to the Main area to regenerate, went back to the drawer box editor, re-applied the pattern I had updated, and that finally worked.
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Re: Hardware Hole Editor/Rectangular Cutout Issue

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Nat,

I too noticed this, and I can see a possible problem should the pattern accidentally cut into another part beside it in the nest. I will have this looked at.

Thanks.
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