Changing Material thickness

Tony Marrazzo · Post by **Tony Marrazzo** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 12:20AM

More newbie problems. I made all of my seed cabs with all measurements in decimal form. My sheet stock thickness was .718 - my normal sheet goods thickness. I changed the global settings to fractional dimensions, and my .718 changed to 11/16 and my actual is 23/32. I realize it is not a big deal, I just like things right. I changed the thickness without having a cabinet open in the editor, it changed fine. I go to open a cabinet and change the materials to the proper thickness and I can't figure out how to do it. I have about 10 cabs to change, I really don't want to completely rebuild them from scratch to make them right. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Damon Nabors · Post by **Damon Nabors** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 12:39AM

You should be able to pull each cabinet into the Cabinet/Assymbly Editor and then go to Construction Settings and adjust the material of each part or globally change the material.

If I understood your questions correctly, you shouldn't have to rebuild the entire cabinet

DanEpps · Post by **DanEpps** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 7:02AM

First, I think what's going on with the decimal-to-fraction conversion is that 23/32 is actually .71875 (eCabinets rounds it to .7188) and your material was entered as .718 so the program went to the closest fraction without going over--thus 11/16 (.6875).

Second, if you changed the material thickness, all cabinets that use the material will ask you to add the new material (old thickness) when you take them into the Cabinet Editor.

You will need to change the old material back to .718 and create a new material with the .7188 thickness. Then as you bring each cabinet into the Cabinet Editor you can globally change to the new material and save the cabinet.

Tony Marrazzo · Post by **Tony Marrazzo** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 10:26AM

When I got the \"add new thickness\" window I didn't realize it was asking for the old thickness to be added, so that is prolly where the problem lies. I will try that and let you guys know - thanks!!

Tony Marrazzo · Post by **Tony Marrazzo** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 10:52PM

Well, I did some foolin around with it this morning. I did make another material size and changed one cabinet to the new material. What I did notice was that When I was in the cabinet editor, and in construction settings, going through all of the tabs and changing the material wasn't enough. The sides and deck changed, but I had to go to the stretcher editor and shelf editor separately and highlight the part, and go to its construction setting and change material separately for those parts. I guess I am not sure how to do something globally, or what all I can do that way, I need to do some more research on that. It is still going to take quite a bit of time to change over all of my materials in all my boxes.

Damon Nabors · Post by **Damon Nabors** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 11:37PM

I am not sure what your doing, but if I pull up a cabinet that is all 3/4\" material for example, and then go up to CONSTUCTION SETTING, then click the GLOBAL TAB and then on the right side where is says MATERIAL (define material) and I use the drop down menu and pick a material of another thickness, say for example 1/2\", all my parts change to 1/2\". But this must be done from the MAIN MENU.

Damon Nabors · Post by **Damon Nabors** » Wed, Dec 12 2007, 11:44PM

One other thing, when you changed your material thickness, did you go to SETTINGS/PREFERNCES , DEFINE STOCK MATERIAL, from the drop down menu on the upper left, choose your sheet stock, pick the sheet stock you want to update, then change your material thickness, click update. You should now be able to change that cabinet like I described before and all the parts update.

DanEpps · Post by **DanEpps** » Thu, Dec 13 2007, 6:35AM

When you update an existing material and make it thicker, eCabinets wants to add the new material when you open a cabinet that uses it.

Making an existing material thinner will automatically update the cabinet when you open it though.

It seems that earlier versions of eCabinets would work both ways. Maybe this is something the programmers need to look at.

Damon Nabors · Post by **Damon Nabors** » Thu, Dec 13 2007, 8:02AM

Dan , I tried going thinner but I did not try going thicker.
Sounds like that could be an issue that needs to be looked at.

Damon Nabors · Post by **Damon Nabors** » Thu, Dec 13 2007, 8:15AM

Ok Dan, I knew I had done this before. If the material of an existing cabinet is thinner than you would like. Change cabinet with another known material globally and save that cabinet with the bogus material. Then go up to the material settings an pull up the thin sheet stock and change the thickness and click update. Now go back to the cabinet and just change the material globally to the newly updated material. It will not ask for a material update now.

DanEpps · Post by **DanEpps** » Thu, Dec 13 2007, 8:28AM

Yep, but that requires manually editing every cabinet in the library to change materials...back to square one.

I know I remember a lot of things that never happened and forget a lot of things that did happen (comes with age

), but I'm sure at one time you could change an existing material to be thicker and it would automatically update when the cabinet was brought into the Cabinet Editor.

The way I remember it, you could change anything but the name of the material and it would update. If you tried to change the name it would require a new material to be created.

Damon Nabors · Post by **Damon Nabors** » Thu, Dec 13 2007, 8:32AM

Still a headache, but better than rebuilding each cabinet individually.

Tony Marrazzo · Post by **Tony Marrazzo** » Fri, Dec 14 2007, 3:11PM

Boy what a new look! also none of your replies came to my email box?? Anyway, maybe I didn't do the global thing right. I tried to do a global change and nothing happened, so I went to the cabinet editor in the main area and changed all of the materials in the appropriate tabs and everything changed but the stretchers and shelves. I will try again to use the global change and see what happens. Thanks for all you feedback!

Tony Marrazzo · Post by **Tony Marrazzo** » Fri, Dec 14 2007, 3:55PM

OK, opened ECabinets from the beginning, chose define materials on the first splash screen, and changed all of the sizes of my sheet goods to 23/32 (most showed 11/16) and my baltic birch to 15/32 and upddated all of them. exited out of that and went to open the kitchen I am working on, and got the material not found screens (about 4 times for different materials). If you click add material, it changes everything I changed globally back to the 11/16 sizes. If I say no, I am all done, it won't open the room. I must be missin somethin......

DanEpps · Post by **DanEpps** » Fri, Dec 14 2007, 4:47PM

With one of the cabinets in the Main area of the Cabinet Editor, right-click and choose Construction Settings. On the Construction Settings dialog, click the Global Settings tab. On that dialog, click the drop-down arrow beside the textbox in the Material section. There you choose the new (23/32) material you defined earlier.

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