Newbie with a Materials List question

[Eric Cathell]

I am sorta confused about the material list. If I buy 4/4 boards, then work them down to 3/4, which dimension should I put in the information? The reason is the calculation for cost will be off ( i am thinking) because I am buying 1inch wood and not 3/4. But then the Dimensions in the design phase could be off. Granted the majority of the actual hardwood calculations would be for face frames and such, but still, isnt that critical too? And maybe as a whole I am just off base here.

[Rick Palechuk]

Welcome Eric, you need to put in finished dimensions so that your cabinet dimensions will be correct.

[Eric Cathell]

Is there a fix in the works for this then? Since the finished size is different from the purchased size, the cost amount will be wrong. Granted this may not be a huge deal, but it is a fact. Maybe just another column that is the purchased size and the finished size? Just a thought, I dont get the feeling that a lot of you use boards excpet for doors, and that may not be a big issue for them.

[DanEpps]

The cost you enter for materials should be the actual purchase cost. Cost is assigned by what is used without regard to the original purchased thickness. It is important, as Rick said, to enter the final thickness of the stock as that is what will be used for calculating the size of components.

[Eric Cathell]

The cost you enter for materials should be the actual purchase cost. Cost is assigned by what is used without regard to the original purchased thickness. It is important, as Rick said, to enter the final thickness of the stock as that is what will be used for calculating the size of components.

ahhhhhh.....ok that clears things up a whole lot. So the boardfoot calculation is from the program(duh) and not based off the material you are using...never occured to me that was the way it was doing things...feel like a dink now.

ETA:

Maybe I am being thick. Is there wastage figured in for boards? I am not infront of the computer with eCabinets installed. For instance If the program calculates I need 15 bf of lumber, and its finished to 3/4, I actually need to purchase more than 15 bf because the finished size. I dont mean to hammer on this especially as my first post(bad manners and all) I just want to understand that can I trust the cost sheet calculations or do I need to do my own padding.

Dan, Your post helped clear up part of my issue, but there is still that other part of it.

[DanEpps]

In the Define Costs section of Settings and Preferences, you can give an "Expected Yield" for your board stock. Since board stock is never nested, just the board feet actually needed (based on the dimensions you enter for it) are used in cost calculations.

Here is the Help text on the subject:

Expected Yield % is the average % of material that normally ends up in the finished product with the remainder being scrapped. This number is used to estimate how much material must be purchased for a Job (and thus the cost) by using the amount of material in the finished product, which is a known amount. Expected Yield is used to estimate Material Cost until the Job is nested, at which point the exact amount of material required is known and used.

[Eric Cathell]

Thanks Dan, you rock!

[DanEpps]

De nada! Costing in eCabinets can be somewhat confusing. You might want to read about it in both the Help Manual and eCabinet Systems Made Easy. Both are located on the help menu in eCabinets.