CNC error on dovetail drawers

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CNC error on dovetail drawers

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When I change the material on the standard cased dovetail drawers to 5/8\" material I get an error \"failed in generating CNC data\". I meadiately followed by \"Unexpected error while handleing CNC data operation in Drawer Box Editor, reverting to previous body\"

I hate to be postuing this so late on a friday, but I am having this machined in the morning. I hope some one has seen this.

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Mike
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Hey Mike...

You shouldn't be working so late.....nor should I - it's Friday night!

I got the same error when changing my drawer box to 15mm Baltic Birch...however, even though it said reverting back to the original box it appears that it did not. Also when I check the parameters they were still set at 15mm. The box saved and nested, but I'm not 100% sure it's going to really cut without problems.

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I got the same results.

Guess well see tomorrow.....
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Re: CNC error on dovetail drawers

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mikesand wrote:When I change the material on the standard cased dovetail drawers to 5/8" material I get an error "failed in generating CNC data". I meadiately followed by "Unexpected error while handleing CNC data operation in Drawer Box Editor, reverting to previous body" ...
Mike,

Sorry to hear about this problem.

I am curious about where in the program you got this error - were you changing to 5/8" material in the Drawer Box Editor? Or were you doing it from somewhere else?

I noticed you have only three 5/8" materials in your cabinets. Were you changing to one of these three, or trying to change to something else?

For several of the cabinets (I did not change all), I did not get the error when changing the material to Maple-5/8-Dbx within the Drawer Box Editor. Neither did I have the problem when changing from the Custom Layout. I wonder what is different on your system? Or whether I changed from a location different than you tried?

Just wondering from where you attempted the material change. I hope the job is coming along well. Let us know the outcome.


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Al,

The issue only shows up in when you use dovetail boxes. None of the cabinets in that job have dovetail drawers.

If you go into the DBE and open one of the dove tail drawer boxes in there, then chang the material thickness to 5/8 you get the error after clicking OK and it rebuilds the box. It will also show every time the cabinet rebuilds after the drawer is added.

I have cut out the job and we figured out the problem.

The dovetail machining properties have to be altered. The set up involves equasions that references the material thickness and the bit parameters.

I am pretty dissapointed in how this is set up in Ecabs. There is no way for the designer to know what bits the shop will use, not to mention the material thickness. Also aparently there are some crucial settings (fit clearance for one) that can only be changed in ecabs. That means the whole job has to be redone, the CNC code generated, and the machine nest as well. This would take an hour (there were a lot of drawers). Obviously the machine operator would not be too happy about spending the time to do that, but there is no way to know that it is OK before you cut them out. All in all the drawers came out nice and I benifited from the conveince of haveing the whole job done at once.
Also because we did it once, hopefully, it will be easier the next time. But the file setup is still an issue for the machine operator.

Mike

PS. I want to mention that Wood Graphics (Lubbock Texas) did a great job. My file has a lot of part editor cuts and the dovetail drawers took a lot of time in the set up. But Grady was very patient and treated me like a valued customer.
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mikesand wrote:...The issue only shows up in when you use dovetail boxes. None of the cabinets in that job have dovetail drawers.

If you go into the DBE and open one of the dove tail drawer boxes in there, then chang the material thickness to 5/8 you get the error after clicking OK and it rebuilds the box. It will also show every time the cabinet rebuilds after the drawer is added...
Mike,

It is terrific that you got the job done, and in the process also solved the problem with the drawers - congratulations!!!

I wanted to share with you that I used your job, as you posted it some time back, and from the Custom Layout I selected cabinets and changed the drawers to dovetail drawers with 5/8" Maple Dbx. I did not have any problems making the changes.

I am sure I am missing something, but don't know what it is...


Al
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That is interesting...

The file that you have is different from the one I machined so the construction parameters aren't the same; drawer insets, and other details.

It dosent seem like that should matter though. On the drawer construction details (in the DBE) what is the % value for the dove tail thickness? That seemed to be the main issue.

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mikesand wrote:...It dosent seem like that should matter though. On the drawer construction details (in the DBE) what is the % value for the dove tail thickness? ...

Mike,

I find for several of the cabinets, although I did not check all of them: 58% .


Al
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