Sinkbase dilemma

Gene Davis · Post by **Gene Davis** » Wed, Sep 26 2007, 2:24PM

Here's my construction of a kitchen sinkbase. It has partitions that define the two false drawerfronts above the doors, made of material titled \"Do Not Cut.\"

They are the workaround for getting the openings for defining the drawerfronts. What is there also, is the blind-tenoned stretcher to which the drawerfronts are fixed with screws from behind, and the drawerfronts will stand a little proud because we will install them with the same 1/16\" soft plastic bumpers we use for all doors and drawerfronts.

We want simplified construction. No tip-out hardware for the drawerfronts. They will be fixed. Period.

The dilemma is the color of the stretcher, and how it will not match the fronts. We do all our frameless jobs using maple melamine, thus that stretcher will be maple.

Our top reveal is 3/8\", and while it will be in the shadow of the overhanging countertop, the plumber, or anyone bending low to get into the cab, will see the maple surface. Likewise for the horizontal margins between drawerfronts and doors, plus the vertical one between the drawerfronts.

This stretcher is the only piece in the whole kitchen with this \"can see it\" feature.

What solution is there that is cost-effective?

Justin Melhiser · Post by **Justin Melhiser** » Wed, Sep 26 2007, 2:50PM

Gene

If you are wanting the stretcher to match the door and drawers, when you add the stretcher make sure you change the material to a maple look. then add the stretcher to the cabinet and this should give you the same look at the doors and drawers. If you have any further questions feel free to call me at 1-877-880-4638 ext. 227

Thank You
Justin

Gene Davis · Post by **Gene Davis** » Wed, Sep 26 2007, 3:08PM

I may have an idea, albeit a silly one.

Here, rendered in Sketchup, is the front stretcher, cut in the nest with 1/8\" deep x 3/4\" width plows, each to house a thin strip of finished wood in the species and finish of the fronts.

Those strips can be placed and fixed with contact adhesive, and voila! Problem solved.

Any other ideas? I'm open.

Gene Davis · Post by **Gene Davis** » Wed, Sep 26 2007, 3:14PM

After having that idea to rout out the face of the stretcher with housings for species strips, I am back in eCabs and finding that . . .

\"this part type is not supported by Part Editor\"

AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!

Will some wizard please help?

Justin Melhiser · Post by **Justin Melhiser** » Wed, Sep 26 2007, 3:26PM

Gene

Use a display panel. You can take it into the part editor and apply the cuts like you wanted to on the stretcher.

Thank You
Justin

Gene Davis · Post by **Gene Davis** » Wed, Sep 26 2007, 4:11PM

I did it another way, Justin.

I built a frameless cabinet 7\" deep, same width as my sinkbase, no back, no top, just a deck and two sides. Seven inches is the width of the stretcher in the sinkbase, and that stretcher has tenoned ends. The deck of this \"workaround cab\" is blind tenoned into the sides, and the sides are made of DO NOT CUT material the same 0.765 thickness as the mel we'll use for all the carcases in the job.

Thus, the deck of this \"cab\" matches the stretcher in width, length, material, and its end tenon detailing.

As you can see in the pic here, I took the deck of this cab into the part editor and did the .125 x .78125 routs. This \"cabinet\" was added to the room, and should yield the stretcher part I need for my 46-inch sinkbase.

I hope this works for me.

DanEpps · Post by **DanEpps** » Thu, Sep 27 2007, 5:17AM

Aaahhh...I see Gene has reached enlightenment also.

As I said in another post, learning to use common parts in uncommon ways answers many if not most eCabinets design questions you will encounter.

Explore, experiment and share your experiences...others are probably looking for an answer to the same question.

Michael Yeargain · Post by **Michael Yeargain** » Thu, Sep 27 2007, 5:58AM

Gene,

I rellish the idea. I do have one question. How will the blind dado be cut into the sides of your cabinet to recieve this part?

Is this a seperate cabinet to produce this part?

Michael S Murray · Post by **Michael S Murray** » Thu, Sep 27 2007, 6:58AM

Gene,
This is how I build my frameless sink bases, only I use 3/4 prefinish maple on everthing and then sustitute whatever specie the job is for parts that show, In this case that strecher would be one of them. Wouldnt that be the simplest thing to do? This pc. then gets stained and finished to match the job. When I am doing casework out of melamine, I do not even bother to match the pc to the exterior laminate color, we take a appropriate color permanent marker an run a line top and bottom before we put the drawer front on. I use 3mm reveals on residential and commercial. No one has ever noticed or said a word on commercial work and I have built for some pretty demanding people.

Gene Davis · Post by **Gene Davis** » Thu, Sep 27 2007, 8:10AM

Michael Y, the part-edited piece is the deck of a separate cabinet, and that cabinet only has its deck cut. As it turns out, doing this workaround results in two parts for the stretcher, the one in the actual sinkbase (which is needed to get the mortises in the L and R ends), and the routed one that will be substituted.

Michael M, thanks for the magic marker idea. We'll go ahead and cut this with the extra stretcher with the inlay plows, but if the magic marker thing looks OK, we'll dispense with using the detailed front, and instead use the plain one, done up with the marker.

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