Myster Partition

[DarrelMWood]

I've got an interesting bug happening, wondering if anyone has a solution. It's not critical on this cabinet, but could be in the future.
Trying to add a center fixed partition. (I had one originally, tried to move it slightly after other changes, I couldn't highlight it or anything. I was finally able to highlight it and remove it, and thought the problem was solved, but no).
When I try to highlight the opening of the carcass in partition editor, I can't select an area. It just won't. Can someone else try it and see if it's ecabs related, or some sort of cryptic ghost in my computer just trying to make my day more difficult?

In my job, it's part of a larger assembly, but I saved this cabinet separately, and it does the same thing whether I open just the individual cabinet, or the full assembly. I closed down ecabs and restarted it, but it still does it.

Thanks,
Darrel

[DanEpps]

That's a good one Darrel. I even tried the old trick of turning face frames off and back on but it didn't help.

I kept seeing these two red blobs at the top left of the cabinet when in the Shelf/Partition Editor (first image). After zooming in very close, it looks like several numbers and letters stacked on top of one another (second image).

If you can figure out what these are and how they got there, I'll bet it will solve the mystery for you.

[DarrelMWood]

Those are numbers in red-----before I was able to delete the partition, there was a listing of what kind of looked like measures along the upper right half of the cabinet....weird and I'd never seen them, and it wasn't quite measures---or at least it didn't read like measures (a strange mix of numbers and letters. On the left half of the carcass was another set of measures--more like what you usually see in ecabs (kind of like the box that states how wide and how tall an opening is). I wish I had saved that cabinet before I deleted the partition, because it was an interesting sight to behold. It might have given more info to figure out what was causing the whole thing.

[Todd Miller]

Darrel,
It looks as if there is a very thin field that cannot be deleted. Very strange indeed! I have reported this to our programmers, and hopefully we can get this figured out.

[DanEpps]

It really is strange. Maybe the Thermwood folks can figure out what is going on with it.

It is always a good practice to save the original and work from a copy when you run into weird issues that seem to have no reason. That will give the programmers something to look at before it was modified.

[DanEpps]

Okay, I got part of it figured out. If you remove the top and put it back, the red numbers go away and you can select the opening. BUT the opening does not extend completely across the cabinet...only about 3/4 across.

The red numbers are the contents of the opening size tag shown in the Shelf/Partition Editor but without the surrounding box.

[Todd Miller]

OK, I got it....

If you remove all of the parts within Construction settings,
then goto the shelf partition editor.
You can now select the entire opening of the cabinet.
Add a shelf/partition
Then re-apply all of the parts including FF. (materials will have to be re-assigned to each part)
delete the shelf/partition.

Now you should be able to select the entire field within the cabinet. That was a good one!

[DarrelMWood]

So it appears to be just one of those weird glitches that may never ever happen again.
What might have precipitated it is that this is about the 7th version of the cabinet....the client would see a rendering and "how about changing this, adding that" and so forth.......after the overall stuff was decided, I went back in to tweak things from what was the last version and get actual part dimensions.....ecabs might have just gotten tired of seeing this same stupid cabinet over and over again!

[DanEpps]

Not so fast there Todd...if you got the same thing I did, the opening is only 29.25" wide instead of 57.75".

I was able to add a partition after removing the top then adjust the left opening width. No matter what I changed the left opening to, the total of both openings went to 128.5" and the cabinet is only 58.5".

[DanEpps]

Look at this after adding a partition when all other parts have been removed.

[Todd Miller]

This is what I got.....

[DanEpps]

Well, ain't YOU special...

[Todd Miller]

LOL!

[DanEpps]

If I remove all parts via CS then go into Shelf/Partition Editor, I have a dimension box that says Width = 29.25" Height = 31". Do you not get that when you first remove everything?

[Todd Miller]

Dan and Darrel,
Yes I get exactly what you do. But after I add all of the parts back in, I delete the shelf/partition and everything SEEMS fine. "SEEMS" is the key word though. In this case I would start from scratch on this cabinet. Because this may be a bug that will carry over into something else down the road. Just like Darrel had mentioned, this is 7th version of this cabinet. So this could have stemmed from one of those previous versions. Adding and deleting then re-adding parts can make odd creations.

I know how to get the cabinet back to normal, I just don't know how to reproduce the original bug??????

Darrel,
If you have all or any of those previous revisions, I would really like to take a look at them. If not, its no big deal. We will just try to work with what we have.