Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
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Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
How can I get the program to nest parts that are 96" in length to nest. I have 48 x 96 sheet stock to cut from. Will I have to fool the CNC by setting the sheet stock to a larger size that what it is?
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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
You will have to show a collar of 0".
If you are using Cut line to nest your parts then eCabinets automatically takes a saw kerf off on side and ends to clean them. You will have to make your sheet size larger to allow for this if you want to get a full 96" cut.
Kerry
If you are using Cut line to nest your parts then eCabinets automatically takes a saw kerf off on side and ends to clean them. You will have to make your sheet size larger to allow for this if you want to get a full 96" cut.
Kerry
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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
If you are using a CNC to cut the parts this may not work as I think the CNC wants to trim all sides of the part. One of the folks that cut parts will need to provide a better answer.
Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
Henry
Try making your sheet stock larger like 49" X 97". Also you will want to check the grain direction on these two sides. You will have to check and see what size tool you have for the outline.
Try making your sheet stock larger like 49" X 97". Also you will want to check the grain direction on these two sides. You will have to check and see what size tool you have for the outline.
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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
I just discovered that using Cut Line, (which doesn't help you using the router) that you can enter a negative .125" collar and the full 96" will nest. That is easier than changing sheet stock size each time you need a full 96" rip.
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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
To learn about maxing out my nesting, I created a wallcab with a back only, flush to all sides. That way I have a single part that is readily resizeable as a cab, to throw into a batch for nesting using various sizes of panel stock.
Setting the collar size to zero, I then fiddled with the size, moving in 16ths by width and height, to see what max size I could nest on a panel.
We work in both melamine and ply, and mel panels are larger than what we get in ply. The pic attached shows what I got as a max for a 48 x 96 stock size panel.
It is good to do this as an exercise and then actually cut some parts from sheets, so that you are then set up to build your seedcabs to utilize optomized nesting. For example here, in plywood, our basecab depths are all 23-7/16" so that they can nest two-wide.
Setting the collar size to zero, I then fiddled with the size, moving in 16ths by width and height, to see what max size I could nest on a panel.
We work in both melamine and ply, and mel panels are larger than what we get in ply. The pic attached shows what I got as a max for a 48 x 96 stock size panel.
It is good to do this as an exercise and then actually cut some parts from sheets, so that you are then set up to build your seedcabs to utilize optomized nesting. For example here, in plywood, our basecab depths are all 23-7/16" so that they can nest two-wide.
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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
Thanks to all,
I will try and see which one will work for me.
I am getting tired of trying to fool the system by oversizing the sheet the having to offset the sheet (X,Y) so the full 96" length can be used.
Thanks again
Henry
I will try and see which one will work for me.
I am getting tired of trying to fool the system by oversizing the sheet the having to offset the sheet (X,Y) so the full 96" length can be used.
Thanks again
Henry
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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
I tried to use the -0.125 collar in the control nesting on the C53 and it would not allow the change. I got an invalid number message. I am using a 0" collar in the control nesting and I still can not cut a part that is 96" in length with sheet stock length of 96". I will just have to fool the machine by using a larger sheet and compensating on the table. 

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Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
Back to my original reply...the CNC wants to make an outline cut around every part. If you are using 96" material, you cannot make a 96" part.
Because materials are rarely straight-edged and square, the CNC ensures parts are true by making the outline cuts.
Unless someone knows a different solution, the only choices you have are to add length and width to the defined materials or make the parts slightly smaller. If it were me I would make the parts smaller to be sure the edges were true.
Because materials are rarely straight-edged and square, the CNC ensures parts are true by making the outline cuts.
Unless someone knows a different solution, the only choices you have are to add length and width to the defined materials or make the parts slightly smaller. If it were me I would make the parts smaller to be sure the edges were true.
Re: Trying to nest cabinet with 96" sides
I think you will have to fool the machine about the position of the workpiece (panel.) Try telling it you are using a 96.5 inch panel, and then after indexing your 8-footer on the table, release vacuum and move it into the field by 1/2".
But, hey, what do I know? I don't own a machine, and buy my parts production-share.
Either that or buy some 9 or 10 foot panels. We can get them from Atlantic Plywood, but special order terms apply.
But, hey, what do I know? I don't own a machine, and buy my parts production-share.
Either that or buy some 9 or 10 foot panels. We can get them from Atlantic Plywood, but special order terms apply.