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eCabinet 6.2.12.2

Post by Ingbert Kilian »

Hi

I have a big Problem since the new eCabinet version 12

We are using a lot Profil 45 degrees (V-Groove) tool for our Doors and Drawer faces. Usually I add them manuel or in the Door designer with DXF lines (Create Edges). I am move the DXF 1/8 offset from the Part and made them 1/8 longer that the tool is cutting a little bit longer that the tool is passing more (longer) that I have a clean cut on the beginning and on the end of the parts. Also I am going 1/8 in the Wasteboard with the Groove to be sure to have a nice clean cut on the Surface.

Since the last update is the Programm always deleting my Door or Drawer face and has mistakes in it.

I tried everything to solve this Problem :wall: , like delete all Edit cuts, try the same with a entire another Cabinet. I want to keep to work the DXF tool line and we have lot in our Library with the same Method to cut 45 Degrees Door and Faces and we can not change that
Can someone fix this Problem because it is very important for us that works. I have a kitchen and all faces are 45 Degrees Finger grip and I lost already a lot of time and I am already late just because of that Problem.

I will try to add Picture.
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Re: eCabinet 6.2.12.2

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Can you post the cabinet that is giving you the problem
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I deleted the V-Groove Profil passes already but if you open Part Editor it is already starting the Problems.
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Hi Ingbert. It looks like the drawer fronts have edge banding. you might try adding drawer fronts with no banding. If you want to contact me we can do a video call and see if we can work out the issue
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I tried it again and one with DXF line (toolpath) and one without DXF Toolpath (1/8 offset left and -0.85 deep)

I attached the Cabinets plus the pictures how i used the V-Groove tool without DXF

Nothing is working
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Sorry forget to attache the picture for the V-Groove
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Try removing the top drawer and adding it back then reapply the profile take it into the constraints manager and constrain the profile by right-clicking the Dark green edge with the profile then hovering over cut path attachment and selecting attach you may still need to constrain the 1/8 over cut also
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Did it work on your side?

If yes please explain excactly what you did
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It behaves for me as I outlined above. I will post the cabinet that I modified.
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I am unsure what is going on with that top drawer, but this is what it looked like
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Good Morning

Thank you for your Cabinet.

I selected and open the first drawer face in Part Editor and you can see already that there is a Mistake defect in the eCabinets Software :( . See picture

Without changing anything is my Drawer face deleted and just the Edgebanding is staying.

Please note that in the Door Editor is the same Problem.

Please can the IT check that and update the eCabinet Software to solve this Problem.

We have to cut the 45 by Hand or have to use VCarve for it which makes everything more complicated and longer.
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Re: eCabinet 6.2.12.2

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I took your cabinet into the Cabinet editor and replaced the drawer fronts using Global Item Modification with a slab drawer front I had with no edge banding and everything seems to work after that.
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Kerry is correct about removing the edge banding however it looks like you are using a 0-thickness banding because you are using a pre-mill edge bander and want to show that the part gets banded as well as get costing for estimating. the file that I uploaded earlier worked fine before I saved it. I did another cabinet from another library and recreated the issue it has something to do with the banding. so, after I got that one to behave in Cabinet Editor, I saved it and reopened it, and it started acting up again. I will try to get a video together for the programmers showing the issue and a workaround if there is one
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Hi Ingbert.
I have been having lots of issues with doors, drawer fronts and drawer boxes as well.
I thought I was the only one because no one else seems to be reporting anything out of the ordinary.

I did run a system repair, (which didn't help) the other day. I am now thinking of doing a total fresh install.
If that doesn't work, Maybe trashing all my libraries and starting again. I'm not sure yet, but at the moment its not working smoothly and hasn't done so for quite some time.
If I do do that, with the practice I've had, the good thing is I'll be a lot quicker at redoing everything. :)

Having said that it might just be related to our computers.


I was talking in the link below about how I can recreate a problem every time on my regular computer.
I have ecabs installed on the cnc controller and on that ecabs install I can't reproduce the problem.
So maybe its a graphics driver issue. I don't just dont know.

viewtopic.php?p=82909#p82909

Here is another thread with door problems
viewtopic.php?p=82890#p82890

I have had that problem with the top drawers that Scott pointed out as well. I can't recall of the top of my head what the work around was.

And only a couple of weeks ago Scott and I were talking about doors and I listed some problems.
I had and made a bit of a video in that thread and saved the door.
viewtopic.php?p=83079#p83079
As soon as I tried to reload the door it was giving me a para solid error as shown it the short link after.

Anyway if we could get to the bottom of it life sure would be a little sweeter. :D
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Post by Clint Buechlein »

Mark,
Mark McCallum wrote: Mon, Feb 10 2025, 3:44AM
viewtopic.php?p=82909#p82909
From simplest side of things, mine adjusts the edgebanding in with the resize. Does the edgebanding behave any with Forced Software Rendering and Use Graphics Double Buffering checked? I would start by getting that part working before you try to look for any other issues. Once you get that, the ability to reproduce from standard items versus your items becomes critical. If you can't get it to reproduce with standard, but your items do, your item may already be corrupt but signs just weren't there.

Scott Marshburn wrote: Sat, Feb 08 2025, 10:20PM Kerry is correct about removing the edge banding however it looks like you are using a 0-thickness banding because you are using a pre-mill edge bander and want to show that the part gets banded as well as get costing for estimating. the file that I uploaded earlier worked fine before I saved it. I did another cabinet from another library and recreated the issue it has something to do with the banding. so, after I got that one to behave in Cabinet Editor, I saved it and reopened it, and it started acting up again. I will try to get a video together for the programmers showing the issue and a workaround if there is one
Scott,

Did you get around to making this video?
Ingbert Kilian wrote: Fri, Feb 07 2025, 7:57AM
Please can the IT check that and update the eCabinet Software to solve this Problem.

We have to cut the 45 by Hand or have to use VCarve for it which makes everything more complicated and longer.
Ingbert,

CNC Automation should have reached out to you.


-Clint-
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