Puzzle Joint Face Frames

Dusty Williams · Post by **Dusty Williams** » Mon, Jul 23 2007, 12:02PM

It's happened to me twice now where I've drawn a face frame cabinet and sent it to the machine and the machine doesn't cut the puzzle joints on the right stile. After viewing the eCabinets file again, it is not displaying the puzzle joint on the right side (all the settings says it should). I have to go in and turn the face frames off, then turn them back on and reset all the settings and they appear again. When I save it and resend to the machine, it cuts them this time. Any thoughts?

I really don't want to have to look at every cabinet and explode the view to ensure it is showing all the joints correctly that it is suppose to have.

If I'm not doing something right, I don't know what it is.
Thanks!

Justin Melhiser · Post by **Justin Melhiser** » Mon, Jul 23 2007, 12:23PM

Dusty

Would you post this cabinet so I can take a look at it?
You can also email it to me if you would like. cabinets@thermwood.com

Thank You
Justin

Todd Anderson · Post by **Todd Anderson** » Thu, Nov 29 2007, 10:46PM

I'm experiencing the exact same problem! Does anyone know how to prevent this from happening?

Justin Melhiser · Post by **Justin Melhiser** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 11:56AM

Todd
Can you post a cabinet that you are having trouble with. I would like to take a look at it.

Todd Anderson · Post by **Todd Anderson** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 12:14PM

Here you go, Justin. I've had it happen on more than one cabinet, but it seems to affect only the top and bottom rails on the right side of the face frame. Thanks.

Justin Melhiser · Post by **Justin Melhiser** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 1:37PM

Todd
If you created your own drawer box I will need that as well. Also I would like to know what kind of profile you placed on the drawers.

Justin Melhiser · Post by **Justin Melhiser** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 1:44PM

Todd
I need to know how you built this cabinet from start to finish. I need to know everything you did to this cabinet. I want to be able to start with one of mine and create the exact same cabinet that you have. I need to be able to reproduce this cabinet.

Rick Deskins · Post by **Rick Deskins** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 4:23PM

This is what I have found so far. It you delete the top drawer w/ drawer box. The puzzle joint dados reappears. You readd the drawer w/ drawer box with the default settings. They go away again. If I regen the cabinet and check the size of the drawer boxes and the top drawer box is taller than the bottom two. If I readd the top drawer w/ drawer box with the drawer box height min inc set to the same height as the other drawer boxes (6.5416\") and set the right and left inset for the dbx .25. Every thing works fine. At the moment, it seems to be some problem with the drawer box. Not for sure on this, but I will keep looking deeper.

Also instead of going to the cabinet editor and exploding the cabinet to check if the dado is there, you can load the cabinet in batch and nest it. If the dado is missing in the nest, you know you have a problem with that cabinet before you go to the machine.

Rick Deskins · Post by **Rick Deskins** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 4:40PM

Also found that if you just take the cabinet to Door/Drawer Editor, highlight the top drawer, select construction settings, and hit ok. It removes the drawer box, but the puzzle joint dados come back.

Rick Deskins · Post by **Rick Deskins** » Fri, Nov 30 2007, 5:29PM

I found the bug. It has to do with the Left Right Stetcher/ Right Stile part order. If you delete any thing, it reorganizes the parts and puts the right stile ahead of the left right stretcher so things work again. This will be fixed for v5.2. Sorry for the trouble.