Two Level Bar; Elevated wall construction?

[Scott Bleau]

We're working on our first project using e-cabinets (a large bar for a local establishment) and are stuck on a couple of items. Basically what I am designing is very similar to a two-level island/peninsula that one would see in a kitchen (lower level with 36" counter, upper level at 42"). We're using the room layout feature for presentation and need to build an elevated wall on the back side of the base cabinets with a counter-top. I constructed the wall in e-cabs using the wall tools but later realized that I cannot place a counter-top on it as the software looks for base cabinets when adding counters. Is there a way to build this wall by modifying cabinets or somehow fooling the software so that a counter can be added? In addition, at one end of the bar there is a 45degree turn, which has posed additional problems as we will need to create the wall and/or detached toe with 22.5 degree ends for placement into the room layout/design. We would appreciate any help with pointing us in the right direction.

[Scott Marshburn]

I would create a display cube for the counter top. It may be easier to do this in the cabinet editor. If you chose to do it in Cabinet editor make sure that you associate the display cube with the cabinet before returning to the layout.
As for the 22 1/2 deg. angles it would help if you posted the layout.
This was done using a display cube taking the cabinet from custom layout to cabinet editor and then associating it with the cabinet

[Scott Bleau]

Thank you Scott. That worked great. I've attached an image of the bar and toe/foot rest that I created previously using the wall tools. If there is a way to "cut" the display cubes at an angle to create the corner/turn, I think I'll have what I'm looking for.

[Scott Marshburn]

Hi Scott
The way that I personally would do that would to draw the wall in 2d in another cad program.
Then create the geometry for the counter and save or export this geometry as a dxf file. Make sure that the geometry is oriented the same as the cube shows in part editor
Then take a cabinet that you wish to associate it too to the cabinet editor create the display cube. You will have to size it so that when it loads the actual top is facing the face of the cabinet or when you take it to part editor you will be looking at the ends of the part not the top .Click on the cube and take it to part editor. Click on contour mode and open the dxf file.
Make sure that all of the lines interest and then trim them.
Click on exit contour and right click and select create part using closed contour.
Click on the geometry and click next.
Then you can rotate it and use the align tool to position it where you need it.
Hope this helps.
Scott

[Dennis Englert]

An experiment you can try.

Countertops only install on base cabinets. You can install base cabinets one on top of another if you change the install height. So in this case, modify a base cabinet, size, etc., and install it at the 42 inches. Then you can install a countertop. If you have base (base) cabinets and the upper row of base cabinets installed it will ask you to select the height for the cabinet to be installed. The countertop on the upper base cabinets can be extended or inset as needed. With regards to 22 1/2 degrees. The counter top can be edited in the Part Editor, but it can not do a 1/2 degree. I have some videos on how to get a 1/2 degree, but as Scott mentioned, sometimes it might be easier to use a CAD program and import the dxf file. You could also possibly chamfer the corner to get what you want.

After the countertop is installed, you can delete the upper row of base cabinets. The countertop will remain.


Dennis

[Dennis Englert]

Slight correction. The upper row of base cabinets would have to be installed so that the top of the cabinet was at the desired 42".

Dennis

[Scott Bleau]

Thanks to both of you for the advice. I use google sketchup frequently with my background in furniture fabrication. If I were to design the 2D portion using sketchup will I be able to import/export as a dxf into ecabs?

[Scott Marshburn]

Yes you can. If You have The pro version I think that It has that feature. Personally I use the free version and have the skp_to_Dxf Plugin installed and use it all the time
If you need any help you can pm me